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post Aug 27 2004, 08:55 PM
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Dupa indelungi ascultari si analize, am ajuns la concluzia ca Century Child este probabil cel mai matur album scos pana acum.Despre Once nu pot spune decat ca pare o axare pe metal mai mult decat celelalte.Alt album ce merita mentionat pentru originalitate este Wishmaster.
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post Aug 27 2004, 10:35 PM
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Gusturile nu se discuta, muzica da.

zeri, care a fost primul album Nightwish ascultat de tine? Eu am avut norocul sa le ascult in ordine. Am inceput prin 1999-2000 si pana la aparitia CC-ului din 2002 am avut destul timp sa le diger. Nu stiu daca ai observat diferentele dintre primele 3 albume si urmatoarele. Tarja devine din voce principala un fel de voce secundara, nu mai are aceasi importanta ca inainte. Acum avem Tarja, orchestra, cor si vocea lui Marco. Si aici zace necazul meu :)
Eh, daca ai timp si chef iti recomand sa faci o comparatie intre Wishmaster si Planet Hell, doua melodii asemanatoare. Compara modul in care-si foloseste vocea Tarja. Cat de variata este in prima melodie si cat de plata e in a doua. Cat de melodica este chitara in Wishmaster si cat de monotona in Planet Hell. Asta daca reusesti sa deslusesti chitara de restul intstrumentelor. Sunt curios la ce concluzii ajungi.

In fine, parerea mea e ca Nightwish au renuntat la simplitate si melodicitate in favoarea unui sunet mai complex dar din pacate mai uniform si ceva mai anost. Century Child si Once m-au impresionat, insa prin calitatea si complexitatea orchestratiei si ... cam atat. Apropo, singurele melodii pastrate din CC sunt Forever Yours si Ocean Soul. Surpinzator, sau nu, melodii in care orchestra nu-si prea face simtita prezenta si Tarja 'are mana libera'.
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post Aug 27 2004, 10:48 PM
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Desi stiu majoritatea melodiilor de cand au aparut, nu le-am dat o importanta mare decat relativ recent.Demiurgus, chitara si Tarja se aud superb si in "Ever Dream" si "Bless the Child".
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post Aug 27 2004, 11:00 PM
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mah, mie imi plac melodiile, nu stau sa analizez chitara, 3 inflexiuni de voce sau nu ... e feelingu doar ... si mie mi-a placut wishmaster mult
marturisesc ca eu nu ascult nightwish chiar de 5 ani dar am toate albumele si le-am ascultat ... asa ca, voi discutati in continuare, eu intre timp mai ascult odata Nemo :P
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post Aug 28 2004, 12:52 PM
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Daca compari cele doua melodii, sunt de acord ca Wishmaster e mai tare, in Planet Hell intervine prea mult vocea lu pletosu' :D . Iar despre chitara, ai dreptate, suna mai frumos in Wishmaster.

Primul album ascultat de mine a fost Over The Hills And Far Away, dar preferatul meu ramane Ocean Born.
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post Aug 28 2004, 04:42 PM
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axi, asa e, conteaza doar sa-ti placa. Gata, nu va mai bat la cap cu prostii :P

P?S?: daca va placut Nightwish incercati Within Temptation si After Forever.
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post Aug 28 2004, 05:11 PM
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cu within temptation m-ai nimerit demiurgus /^_^
after forever inca nu am ascultat, da daca m-ai nimerit asa bine cu within temptation, o sa incerc ...
cred ca multi din cei care asculta nightwish asculta si evanescence sau nu le-ar displace nici within temptation ... poate nici enya ... cine stie :wink:
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post Aug 28 2004, 07:51 PM
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Cu grija axi, After Forever sunt destul de suparati /gg

Evanescene ma plictisesc, Enya canta frumos. Rain Fell Within sunt un fel de clona Nightwish, iar in For My Pain canta Tuomas Holopainen (taticul Nightwish-ului). Asta pentru cine-i interesat :)
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post Aug 28 2004, 09:37 PM
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sper sa rezist ... am ascultat destul si d-astea ... :D
cat de "rai" pot fi? ... ascult haggard sau system of a down de exemplu ... sunt mai rai?
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post Aug 28 2004, 10:06 PM
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Sa zicem ca-s o combinatie de Within Temptation si Nightwish plus ceva mai multa viteza. Vocalista Floor Jansen e ingredientul magic .Fara ea After Forever n-ar fi fost decat inca o formatie de gotic. Au chiar si cateva piese in care o putem auzi pe Sharon den Adel (Within Temptation). Incearca: http://www.tartareandesire.com/bands/afterforever.html

Ah, da, cine-i interesat sa asculte Within Temptation - Our Farewell versiunea Live. Avem parte de un duet Sharon den Adel & Tarja :)
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mda ...interesant link ...
merge un pic mai multa viteza :D ... "speed, give me what i need" ... billy idol-speed ... e de apasat pedala la fund melodia asta
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Vrei viteza? Incearca:

Chastisement - Destructutorial
Running Wild - Siberian Winter
Whitering Surface - Hold the Line
Edguy - The Savage Union
Children of Bodom - Follow the Reaper

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mda ... am ascultat ... intr-adevar ... speed :D
destructorial ... mda ...
mi-a placut mai mult edguy ... acum ma apuc sa caut after forever ... ;)
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As compara albumul Once cu Metallica - S&M sau cu Scorpions & Berliner Philarmoniker - Moment of Glory. Suna bine, exista un anumit public care prefera genul cu multa orchestratie, dar parca exista o mica contradictie intre cele doua elemente: chitara si orchestra bogata. E genul frumos si atat, care plictiseste dupa cateva ascultari. Dar n-as fi protestat daca Tarja isi pastra vocea initiala, mai exact caldura vocii pe care o avea pe albumele 2 si 3. Primul (Angels Fall First) e un album de incepatori, in care nu vad nimic frumos afara de incercarea de a realiza ceva de calitate. Fara prea mult succes insa, trupa fiind la acea vreme total neexperimentata la acea data.
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post Sep 1 2004, 09:47 AM
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eh...oricum Nightwish a decazut ... momentan Battlelore mi se pare mai mult decit interesant ca combinatie metall...mult mai grav...
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post Sep 2 2004, 09:33 AM
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Am ascultat in ultimele zile cam tot ce am Nightwish si apoi am luat melodia Nightquest de la un coleg.In comparatie cu melodiile vechi,cele noi au un farmec de scurta durata...mi-a placut o vreme Wish I had an angel si Dark Chest of Wonders dar s-au intors in top Elvenpath si End of all hope....mai nou Nightquest care mi se pare cea mai reusita a lor.
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Sunt de acord cu tine Cyber dar mai sunt altele in fara de Nightquest cum ar fi Come cover me, Bare grace misery, Crownless si Know Why The Nightingale Sings si nu putem uita de Dead Boys Poem :D
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post Sep 4 2004, 09:20 AM
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Topul meu ca sa fiu clar:
1.Nightquest
2.End of all hope/Elvenpath
3.Bless the child
4.Know why the nightingales sing
5.Deep silent complete

Melodiile mele de suflet de la Nightwish.Am cam tot dar aste le prefer.
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post Sep 9 2004, 02:32 PM
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NIGHTWISH RULESSSSS!!!!!!!
Dar imi mai plac si Apocalyptica,Metallica,Iron Maiden,Megadeath ,AC/DC si Guano Apes.de la noi,Cargo si Antract mi se par cele mai bune.
In rest,kiss kiss to all rock and anime fans!
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post Sep 9 2004, 05:14 PM
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eh...Tarja /love e buna /^_^ ...nightwish has fallen.
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