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Tessa
post Jun 7 2011, 01:08 AM
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Ma mir ca nimeni nu a deschis inca un topic despre asa ceva. Am avea ce sa discutam la acest subiect. :)
Idea e ca de multe ori atunci cand ne alegem o serie tindem sa ne ghidam si dupa rating-ul pe care il, iar uneori ramanem surprinsi ca anime-uri despre pe care toti le lauda se adeveresc a fi mai slabe decat ne-am asteptat sa fie sau chiar invers. Pe scurt as vrea sa faceti aici o lista cu anime-urile care considerati ca au un rating prea mare si cele care credeti ca sunt prea neapreciate/neobservate si sa specificati de ce in 2, 3 cuvinte ^^.

Ce am eu pana acum:

Underrated:
~ Red Garden
Nota Acordata de AniDB: 7.08
Nota mea: 10
E adevarat ca acest anime s-ar putea sa nu fie pentru oricine, iar baietii sa se poata identifica destul de greu cu personajele principale [care toate sunt fete cu exceptia personajului negativ], dar o animatie superba, un soundtrack extraordinar si o poveste originala ar trebui sa atraga pe oricine. Eu spun ca merita o incercare.

~ Amazing Nuts!
Nota Acordata pe MAL: 7.03 [pe Anidb clipurile au note de la 5 pana la 6.54]
Nota mea: 9
E o colectie de anime-uri de scurtmetraj cu o coloana sonora excelenta si grafica pe masura. Povestile sunt pline de simboluri concentrate in 6-10 minute fiecare. Motivul probabil pentru care unii nu au apreciat seria.

~Ame to Shoujo to Watashi no Tegami
Nota AniDB: 5.73
Nota mea: 9
Inca un scurt metraj care mi-a amintit mult de "5 cm per seccond". chiar nu inteleg de ce a primit o nota asa de mica, povestea e foarte draguta.

~ Aoi Bungaku Series
Nota AniDB: 8.31
Nota mea: 10
Vorbeste despre dragoste, drama si regret, despre bunatate si cruzine, nebunie si luciditate daunatoare. Practic cuprinde si dezvolta la maxim toate sentimentele umane "principale" pana in cel mai mic detaliu". Un anime psihologic si plin de simboluri.

~ Gilgamesh
Nota MAL: 6.96
Nota mea: 10
O poveste originala cu o realizare impecabila. Pacat ca nu incepe inca din primele episoade [motiv pentru care multi abandoneaza seria]. Eu spun sa o incercati macar odata.

~ Gin'iro no Kami no Agito
Nota MAL: 7.51
Nota mea: 10
Probabil ca nota mea e putin influentata si de melodia superba din intro, dar chiar cred ca acest film merita mai mult de 7.50. Poveste, desi nu e 100% originala e prezentata intr-un mod original.

~ Hana yori Dango
Nota MAL: 8.03
Nota mea: 10
Ocolit din cauza graficii mai vechi. E amuzant si romantic, eu spun ca merita urmarit macar odata in viata [chiar si de baieti] :) .

Overrated:
~ Bakuman
Nota AniDB: 8.31
Nota mea: 6
Ce poate sa vada cineva la acest anime nu pot sa inteleg. Recunosc e un bun documentar, dar ii lipseste complet actiunea si punctul culminant. It's the story about making a story and basically has no story :( .

~ Black Cat
Nota MAL: 7.68
Nota mea: 5
Luam cateva personaje cool, le dam la fiecare cate o putere si le bagam in tot felul de intamplari fara noima si uitam sa mai facem un plot principal. Cam la asta se rezuma Black Cat. De unde a obtinut punctajul de 7.68 nu-mi dau seama.

~ Devil May Cry
Nota MAL: 7.27
Nota mea: 4
Actiunea fara sens, realizare slaba si lipsa unei povesti m-au facut sa nu apreciez catusi de putin aceasta serie.

~ Elfen Lied
Nota MAL: 8.23
Nota mea: 6
Blood + Gore + Bad developed story = Not for me.

~ Gake no Ue no Ponyo
Nota MAL: 8.12
Nota mea: 6
Traiesc cu impresia ca tot ce scot Ghibli e bun, dar nu e adevarat. Acest film a fost o reciclare a productiilor trecute de la Ghibli atat ca poveste cat si ca realizare. Un fel de combinatie intre copilaria prezentata in Totoro si dragostea si sacrificiul prezentat in Howl. S-au potrivit ca sarea si lamaia.

O sa mai revin si cu alte titluri [momentan am ajuns pana la H in lista de pe MAL :P ].
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post Jun 9 2011, 03:47 PM
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@Baka man Asa cum am zis, nu cunoc foarte bine cum sunt rated de majoritate fiecare serie, doar un grafic si ce posturi am mai vazut pe forumul asta, deci o marja maricica de eroare e de asteptat.

Despre partea cu fantasy... well aproape intreg animeul este doar un setting medieval, war, stuff, nothing supernatural, then suddenly hellspawn everywhere, dar numai pt cateva minute, habar n-ai ce-i cu ei, de unde sunt, ce fac si ce treaba au cu animeul asta. With that much of an explanation you begin to wonder if it was actually inteded to be so or they just made a mistake and pasted some scenes form the wrong anime. ( again, this is the point of view of someone who's only seen the anime)

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Sincer, iti apreciez parerile, dar daca te uiti la niste anime-uri care sunt renumite pentru anumite chestii, chestii care tie nu iti plac, nu poti sa spui ca sunt underrated, ci doar ca nu sunt pe gustul tau. E ca si cum m-as uita la un yaoi, si as spune ca e o porcarie overrated pentru ca mie nu imi place genul.

De-asta nu am intrat in anime moe or yaoi, nu imi place genul, but violence... tocmai pentru asta m-am uitat la Ninja Scroll and I just can't see where exactly is all that violence everyone talks about. I probably have a different understanding of violence so I suppose I'll just put it in the "can't comprehend" category.

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Tocmai ala e farmecul Perfect Blue, ca e lipsit de orice simt al realitatii.

Daca era some shapeshifting demonic fairy as fi inteles si acceptat lipsa simtului realitatii, dar finalul... nu e vorba doar de realitate, e si o problema si de credibilitate... But I won't argue, if that's your thing that's your thing.

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numai faptul ca a fost regizat de Satoshi Kon ar trebui sa insemne ca nu are cum sa fie underrated

Apreciz un lucru dupa valoarea lui, nu a regizorului/autorului/compozitorului etc. Even the greatest people o mai dau pe langa cate o data. Idolize their work, not the people themselves.

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pentru simplul motiv ca este to childish fara background si cu o poveste cam nedezvoltata

L-ai vazut pe tot?, fiindca daca l-ai vazut si ai o astfel de parere inseamna ca ti-a facut cineva o farsa si a redenumit fisierele de pe la alta serie. D.Gray-man o avea defectele lui , dar povestea este tocmai punctul forte, zbuciumarile prin care trec personajele... you're basically saying you don't like red because it's too greenish.
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QUOTE(elpreda @ Jun 9 2011, 03:47 PM)
De-asta nu am intrat in anime moe or yaoi, nu imi place genul, but violence... tocmai pentru asta m-am uitat la Ninja Scroll and I just can't see where exactly is all that violence everyone talks about. I probably have a different understanding of violence so I suppose I'll just put it in the "can't comprehend" category.
Daca era some shapeshifting demonic fairy as fi inteles si acceptat lipsa simtului realitatii, dar finalul... nu e vorba doar de realitate, e si o problema si de credibilitate...  But I won't argue, if that's your thing that's your thing.
Apreciz un lucru dupa valoarea lui, nu a regizorului/autorului/compozitorului etc. Even the greatest people o mai dau pe langa cate o data. Idolize their work, not the people themselves.


1. Ai vazut cumva o varianta cenzurata a Ninja Scroll? Intreb foarte serios pentru ca sunt un fan al anime-urilor violente si Ninja Scroll clar isi merita faima. Nu de alta, dar am patit-o cu alte anime-uri de genul, cand am dat peste variante cenzurate si nu intelegeam care e faza cu ele si de ce sunt atat de "barfite"...

2. Dupa cum a zis si bogdan, faza cu fantasy-ul din Berserk sta altfel in manga. In anime recunosc ca si pe mine m-a luat prin surprindere, dar nu m-a deranjat prea tare, mi s-a parut mai interesant din cauza asta.

3. Nu e vorba de idolatrizarea regizorului, ala era doar un alt bonus, Perfect Blue e misto din cauza povestii. Sau bine, asa mi s-a parut.



Also, alta serie overrated: Higurashi.
Don't ge me wrong, I loved it! Dar mi se pare ca putea fi mult mai bun daca se alegea o abordare mai serioasa. Ciorba aia de moe/semi-harem/fetite cu ochii mari parca nu se imbina asa bine cu povestea... In loc sa fie ceva epic, a iesit doar ceva bun.
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Tessa   Underrated/overrated Anime   Jun 7 2011, 01:08 AM
Baka man   RE: Underrated/overrated Anime   Jun 7 2011, 01:59 AM
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