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ATENTIE: spoilere prezente
Violenta in anime? Aceasta problema a fost pusa mereu de spectatori vestici. Pentru japonezi totul se rezuma la faptul ca anime nu este real si indiferent cat de mult sange, dezmembrari si mutilari exista, acestea nu sunt reale si deci nu reprezinta violenta in sensul clasic al cuvantului. Pentru mine violenta in anime este practic inexistenta, pentru ca nu o sesizez. In scenele de dezmembrari (Ninja Scroll, seria americana->Spawn) urmaresc daca acestea au fost realizate (desenate) bine si fizic posibile si nu ma impresioneaza in nici un sens (nici nu vomit nici nu salivez pentru mai mult). Atata timp cat se respecta regula cauza-efect sangele nu iese in evidenta. Cand se exagereaza cu cantitatile de sange (Fist of the North Star), actiunea devine enervanta si hilara. Daca genul punk aducea cu el o violenta exagerata specifica anilor 80, in prezent se intalneste o situatie inversa data de noile reglementari TV, ce fac ca cel mai violent anime TV sa nu aiba sange. Ca exemplu indic Ghost in the Shell si seria acestuia. In film exista o scena in care eroina spulbera capul unui dezident (la inceputul filmului). In schimb in serial, in ultimile episoade, unde apare soldatul ce jupuia victimele, desi acestea ereau jupuite de vii sangele este aproape inexistent. Despre urmele de gloante ce sa mai spun, poti sa impusti de cate ori vrei si tot nu ai sa obti mai mult sange decat o taietura de hartie (Asemanator Noir in aceasta privinta).
Kaoru> in cea ce priveste Berseker ai dreptate. Violenta de pe parcurs si in special de la sfarsit, la care se adauga scena violului (violul prezentat nu ca act sexual erotic ca in majoritatea hentaiurilor ci ca un act brutat, silit) fac din acest film unul din cele mai violente animeuri existente. Violenta este cu atat mai explicita avand in vedere ca personajele sunt dezvoltate pe parcursul celor 24ep (seria are 25ep in total).
In Ninja Scroll desi sunt prezente scene violente, acestea nu sunt exagerate (ma astept din parte unui monstru de piatra sa rupa cateva brate fara problema, ma astept cand tai un om pe jumatate sa curga ceva sange). Acelasi lucru si despre VHD.
Kite si Mezzo Forte sunt iarasi un subiect aparte. Urfe nu este fan al acestor filme, dar mie imi par bine realizate. Ritmul alert in care este realizata actiunea, scenele erotice fara prejudecati si realismul ranilor provocate de munitie exploziva fac din aceste filme animeuri de referinta. Si daca vreti sa urmariti aceste filme aveti grija sa vedeti varianta necenzurata. In schimb, ca sa comparati aceste filme cu Princess Mononoke sau si mai rau cu The boy who saw the wind, mi se par o nedreptate pentru ambele parti, fiind vorba de genuri diferite. Genul actiune, prin insasi natura sa, va fi prezent cu sange si violenta ce incearca sa se aproprie cat mai mult de realitate.
In inchiere as vrea sa afirm ca un anime in care violenta (sange, moarete, etc) este bine implementata si realista este cu mult mai bun decat unul in care este exagerata sau minimalizata in mod voit. Astfel recomand Jin Roh unde un glont omoare, o explozie dezmembreaza iar cu o mitraliera inrosesti apa de sangele inamicilor, totul in jurul unei povesti bine inchegate.
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