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post Feb 16 2011, 05:57 PM
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Sync #7

Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica

1 episod pe saptamana


Beloved family, good friends, laughter and tears - these things make up the ordinary life of Kaname Madoka, a second grade student of Mitakihara City Middle School. One night, Madoka dreams of a mysterious dark haired girl struggling against a terrible evil; the next morning she discovers that the girl, Akemi Homura, has transferred into her class. This encounter will lead to an incident which will alter Madoka's fate forever.

Watching Schedule:


18 feb - ep 6-7
24 feb - ep 8
3 mar- ep 9
10 mar - ep 10
17 mar - ep 11
24 mar - ep 12

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Eu am vazut doar 5 episoade in momentul de fata si vreau doar sa zic o chestie. Multa lume compara Madoka cu Nanoha pentru ca apartin aceluiasi gen de corcitura intre shounen si mahou shoujo, dar mie Madoka mi se pare de 2 ori mai bun. Acuma ce e drept e ca am vazut doar primul sezon din Nanoha si toata lumea pare sa zica ca celelalte 2 is cele mai bune, dar mie primul sezon din Nanoha mi s-a parut relativ slab, pe cand Madoka mi-a atras atentia din primul episod. Recunosc ca in cazul meu e vorba de un pic de superficialitate, ca ador grafica din Madoka si in special ca e amestecata cu un subiect care nu "arata" ca si grafica :P Nanoha ma cam zgaria pe ochi din punct de vedere vizual.

Anyway, I'm interested in other fans' opinion. Stiu sigur ca sunt cel putin 2 persoane pe a-c carora le place si Nanoha si Madoka: DmonHiro si cg1700 :D So guys, is Madoka better than Nanoha or not?

Si-acum strict Madoka: apreciez si amestecul dintre grafica eye candy a la Hidamari Sketch si mazgaliturile alea abstracte :D I also wonder about the target audience: mahou shoujo-urile astea corcitura (oh cool deja vorbim la plural, I do hope it becomes a new genre ^^) is in principal gandite pentru baieti ca si target principal, da? Din punct de vedere vizual, personajele vor sa fie lolis, destul de dotate de altfel, so let's make them "sexy lolis". Asta ar fi pentru baieti. But the characters are also damn cute, right?! Asta ar fi pentru fete. I mean they're freakin' kawaii and all that shit. With their cute ribbons and everything (what is it with mahou shounen (yes, that's the name I found for mahou shoujo + shounen, quite original eh? :P) and ribbons?). So anyway, I was just wondering if maybe this is more than just an anime for boys, maybe it's indeed intended for girls and boys? Ok, nu ar fi singurul gen, ca sunt mai multe genuri care-s practic unisex, dar asta ar fi corcitura ultimate :D Mahou shoujo (it can't get any girlier than that, shoujo and magic wands) and shounen (it can't get any stupider than this (haha) with infinite power levels and whatnot) FTW!

Oh and y'know the *ahem* moment? I was so not fucking expecting that! I swear, I must've seen the scene 5 times in a row. Adica ok, ma asteptam la chestii mai speciale de la Madoka, dar nu m-am gandit ca s-ar putea sa faca asta. I just love it when this happens! :D Whether it's anime, movie or book.

Invitam la comentarii pe oricine care urmareste Madoka :D Com'on ppl, you don't have to schedule this sync, if you're watching Madoka, just drop a line or two here. Pana vineri comentariile se refera strict la primele 5 episoade, so please no ep 6 spoilers.

PS: cg1700, am pus urmatoarele episoade joia pentru ca atunci apar, nu? adica eu urmaresc versiunea celor de la gg, dar daca vrei alta zi, cum ar fi vineri, pe ideea ca nu apucam sa vedem joi, do say so. gah it's so easy to set up stuff with only two sync participants :lol:


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post Feb 16 2011, 06:13 PM
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I'm in... si sunt chiar la zi... si tot de la gg urmaresc. Foarte tare seria :D


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post Feb 16 2011, 06:37 PM
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In weekend o sa urmaresc si eu cele 6 episoade si apoi ma voi tine de sync cu voi xD momentan nu am timp absolut deloc, dar sper sa va prind din urma :P


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post Feb 16 2011, 06:49 PM
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yay! more people :D no stress, Kassy, practic pana joia viitoare tot poti sa vezi la episoade.

@Notorious: now if we could only get you to talk more about that "foarte tare" :P who's your fav loli eh? :D


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post Feb 16 2011, 07:40 PM
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Eu am vazut deja #6. Trec si eu pe aici pe 18, dupa #7.

PS: Imi pare FOARTE rau pentru cei ce nu vizioneaza aceasta serie. Este ATAT de buna, incat am comandat Bluray din Japonia.

PS2: Nu pot compara seria asta cu Nanoha. Nu cred ca ar putea fi mai diferite. Plus, as vrea sa-l vad pe Kuyubei enervand-o pe Nanoha.
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post Feb 16 2011, 07:50 PM
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Would you care to explain why? :mellow: I remember having a kind of disagreeing discussion on the Nanoha topic as well :lol: I promise to be more open minded this time :D or is it a matter of seeing the sequels to Nanoha? I'm just perplexed cause I thought that Nanoha and Madoka are exactly the same in genre and style.


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post Feb 16 2011, 08:11 PM
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In primul rand, atmosfera este complet diferita. Daca Nanoha este roz, Madoka este negru. In Nanoha toata lumea (de partea ei) este 100% binevoitoare, iar Nanoha este decisa, determinata, curoajoasa, etc. Madoka este exact opusul. Cu exceptia faptului ca amandoua vor sa faca bine, nu au mai nimic in comun.

In al doilea rand, cel putin in primele 2 serii din Nanoha, nu prea avem personaj negativ, in adevaratul sens al cuvantului. Nimeni nu vrea sa cucereasca lumea, sau sa distruga planeta, sau macar ca omoare lumea. Chiar daca metoda lor a fost complet grestia, si au facut lucruri rele pentru a resusi, nici Precia, nici Wolkenritter, nici Graham, nici macar Book Of Darkness, nu aveau intentii rele. Precia, desi 110% nebuna, vroia sa-si invie fiica. Am vazut de multe ori, mai ales in film, ca era o mama foarte buna, dar si-a pierdut mintile dupa moartea lui Alicia. Wolkenritter incercau doar sa o vindece pe Hayate. Graham vroia sa scape lumea de blestemul cartii. Book Of Darkness.... nici macar nu avea de ales, programul ei era complet distrus, ea niciodata nevrand sa distruga ceva.
In Madoka... nici nu prea stiu cine e de partea cui... personaj negativ avem, aproape toata lumea are propriile motive, unele nu chiar atat de bune, iar Kyuubei ma inspaimanta.
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post Feb 16 2011, 08:15 PM
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Oh so it's the shadiness of it all. Yes, I actually didn't sit down and think about it, but I do rather like the whole neutral/gray characters thing. And yes, Kyuubei is absolutely fucking awesome :D I love him, the way he talks without moving his mouth and his oh so cleverly placed helping tips. Maybe we'll get to see a huge horrifying sharp-fanged Kyuubey at one point :D Weirdly enough, I don't even have a problem picturing it.


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post Feb 16 2011, 08:39 PM
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Nu cred ca Kyuubei chiar este evil. Din cate imi dau seama, el/ea chiar nu intelege sentimentele oamenilor, pentru ca el nu pare se aiba. Nu exclud posibilitatea ca el sa fie capul tuturor rautatilor, pentru ca el mananca Grief Seeds.
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post Feb 16 2011, 08:51 PM
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I dunno. I actually don't like to speculate that much when it comes to stuff I like for fear of uncovering the plot :P so I tend to just sit back and let myself be surprised :D and it works very well with anime like Madoka, I do expect a couple more surprises from it, hope no disappoint.


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post Feb 16 2011, 09:04 PM
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At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the freaking Lich King shows up wearing a baseball hat and drinking a beer.
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post Feb 16 2011, 09:06 PM
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Ce pot eu sa spun despre Madoka? Trebuie sa recunosc ca nu imi aduc aminte ultima oara cand un anime a reusit sa ma captiveze asa. Nu multe anime-uri reusesc sa abia o atmosfera care sa ma prinda. In primul rand trebuie sa mentionez ca sunt un sucker imens pentru o coloana sonora buna. De obicei e make or break pentru mine daca un anime are sau nu muzica awesome si Madoka totally delivers, mai ales ca soundtrack-ul e compus de Kajiura Yuki care de altfel e compozitoarea mea preferata cand vine vorba de coloane sonore.

Cu privire la poveste pot spune ca dupa ce am citit Saya no Uta scrisa de acelasi autor cam stiam in ce ma bag. De asta am fost foarte sceptic cand autorul a scris pe twitter ca povestea din Madoka va fi una care ne va incalzi inimile. Yea right, over an open fire maybe. Asa ca ma cam asteptam ca o scena de genul aceleia sa se intample. Desigur, in realitate tot a reusit sa ma surprinda complet fiindca nu ma asteptam sa inceapa macelul atat de repede si cu un tone shift atat de brusc. Oricum, scena aia mi s-a parut genial facuta. Putine momente pot fi atat de cute si de gruesome in acelasi timp. Pe langa asta imi place modul in care povestea ia cliseele clasice mahou shojo si apoi le calca sistematic in picioare. Eu ma uit intre timp si la Suite Precure si e foarte distractiv sa observ deviatiile care apar intre Madoka comparativ cu un mahou shojo by the book.

Din punct de vedere al art style-ului pot doar spune ca se vede ca SHAFT a investit banii castigati din Bakemonogatari in niste droguri de calitate. Recunosc ca sunt usor impresionat de scenele trippy pe care cei de la SHAFT le folosesc, dar ce mi se pare awesome e ca de data asta chiar reusesc sa le integreze in poveste si nu apar doar asa out of nowhere. Desigur pe langa faptul ca anime-ul intra in trippy-mode de fiecare data cand apare o witch, si lumea "normala" care arata ca si cum Apple a cucerit lumea in viitor. Pe langa modul in care arata lumea, trebuie sa recunosc ca imi plac foarte mult costumele de mahou shojo, mai ales cel classy al lui Mami. Cel mai mult insa imi plac armele lor. Chestia care ma deranjeaza cel mai mult la mahou shojo in general e ca de multe ori armele lor arata ca niste bete ieftine de plastic. Stiu ca asta se intampla fiindca betele alea sunt vandute ca jucarii, dar come on! De exemplu in Heartcatch Precure character designul era superb. si ce foloseau ca arme? Bete de plastic care nu se potriveau deloc cu design-ul personajelor. Pe de alta parte, in Madoka, armele char se potrivesc cu character design-ul. Sayaka foloseste sabii si hainele ei se potrivesc tematic cu arma, iar Mami foloseste flintlocks si asta se reflecta in costumul ei. In plus apreciez ca luptele folosesc atacuri asemanatoare celor din Fate/Stay Night (posibil intentionat).

Comparatie intre Nanoha si Madoka nici eu nu prea pot sa fac. Similaritatea lor principala e faptul ca amandoua sunt mahou shojo pentru un public tinta mai batran. Nanoha insa plays straight trope-urile care caracterizeaza mahou shojo-urile, doar ca incetul cu incetul evolueaza spre Gundam cu fete magice. Pe de alta Parte Madoka pare sa aiba ca unul din scopuri sa puna sub semnul intrebarii o serie de conventii ale genului pe care noi de obicei le luam de bune. Also, in Timp ce Madoka e plot heavy, Nanoha nu prea a avut o poveste care sa ma dea in mod special pe spate, punctul forte al serie fiind pe de o parte combat-ul si pe de alta parte modul in care e integrata magia in setting.


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post Feb 16 2011, 09:36 PM
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Nu ma asteptam ca Madoka sa fie singurul anime la care ma uit sezonul asta. L-am inceput doar pentru Yuki Kajiura. (Da, doar. SHAFT nu imi spune nimic, nu sunt destul de versat intr-ale anime sa am preferinte pt un studio.)

Ce m-a atras din primul episod a fost stilul, chiar mai mult decat soundtrack-ul. Mi s-a parut interesant ca exista 3 stiluri care corespund cu 3 lumi, contrastul mai ales dintre vis si WitchWorld care irupe haotic in "profan" si, pe de alta parte, dintre WitchWorld si mediul foarte rece, steril si geometric de la scoala. Designul claselor si coridoarelor mi-a retinut atentia pana la final. Nu pot sa spun ca sunt impresionat de plot sau de caracterizare sau chiar de setting, deocamdata. Toate sunt foarte conventionale.

Sunt de acord ca Nanoha si Madoka sunt similare doar prin gen (mahou shoujo - seinen). Dar Nanoha era pentru un subset de seinen (hello, loli fanservice!). Oh, si Madoka plays some tropes straight, dar cred ca just to subvert them when it matters. Om vedea.
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post Feb 16 2011, 09:37 PM
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Yup, yup, soundtrack is also a huge plus. I don't even know how I forgot to mention it, but the point is that it TOTALLY improves the fight scenes. Reminds me so much of Mai Hime, doar acolo mai dadeam inca o data scena de lupta ca sa vad cum se potriveste muzica cu actiunea :)

I also like Mami's costume and I can appreciate the guns she uses, but her finishing blow with the huge gun? :lol: that's just fucking hilarious, bordering on ridiculous :P



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Mie cel mai amuzant moment mi s-a parut scena din episodul 3 dintre Mami si Madoka care ar fi trebuit sa fie foarte emotionanta, doar ca dintr-o data incepe sa ploua cu pastile.


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Oh aia de pe pod? :D God, I have to resee that, cause I only vaguely remember it :D

and hello, hello newcomer! I do have to say we are quite a lively bunch. Nu ma asteptam sa se adune atata lume :) Great call, cg!


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I also like Mami's costume and I can appreciate the guns she uses, but her finishing blow with the huge gun?

That's a BFG or a FreakinCannon. Get your detailed, nicely designed weapons in order, please. :P
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Sorry de offtopic, dar cum seria nu are alt topic dedicat vreau si eu sa pun o intrebare: Anime-ul ar putea fi urmarit si de cineva care nu agreaza genul mahou shoujo?
Adica, vreau sa stiu daca seria aceasta are ceva mai mult decat transformari, lolies si "save the world plan"?
Recunosc ca entuziasmul unora de pe aici mi-a facut "pofta" si chiar de aceea nu vreau sa o incep daca stiu ca nu e pentru mine. Don't want another disappointment.
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Yes, it's more than your average mahou shoujo. It's not Tokyo Mew Mew, Wedding Peach, Shugo Chara or even Sailor Moon. Acuma pofta ca pofta, dar vezi ca unii de aici sunt fani SHAFT, care include si Maria Holic :P hehe. Just watch the 1st episode and you'll figure it out.


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Oh nu, Maria Holic *se ascunde sub o perna*. Am ramas cu traume dupa seria aceea.
O sa vizionez primul episod. Daca nu mai dau pe aici inseamna ca nu m-a prins. :P

Edit: acum ma uitam pe la ce au lucrat Shaf, iar Soredemo Machi mi-a palcut. Deci nu e vorba de studiou, ci de poveste in sine :P .


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