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post May 5 2005, 07:02 AM
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Daca ne luam dupa scrierile lui Tolkien(sorry ca ajung IAR la el), totzi dragonii sunt "datzi dracului". Normaly, dragonii roshii sunt cei mai nobili, dar la Tolkien aia roshii sunt cei mai ai dracului... see Smaug, iar primul dragon, Glaurung, care era neinaripat shi de aur era la fel de bad @$$. The point is, dragons can be bad, good, wise whatever cause we make them like that... :roll:
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post Jun 29 2005, 06:07 PM
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Citesc si eu acum... cand am timp... DragonLance. E frumoasa tare cartea, dar mereu uit de cine e scrisa. Am citit 11 pagini din 176 ale primului volum, deja a aparut un dragon rosu Blood Gem care e super tare... o sa mai citesc si va spun daca merita sa cititi si voi... deocamdata v-o recomand.
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post Jul 28 2005, 01:27 AM
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Urmandu-mi tendintele de a cautat poze fantasy pe net am dat peste un text foarte interesant

"I was at the zoo the other day--bear with me a moment, here--and I was drawing the Komodo dragons. One of them was chewing sedately on a dead rat, and it struck me that THIS was why dragons aren't 'real' creatures. A flesh-and-bone dragon in this world is at best an overgrown monitor lizard, with or without batwings. That got me thinking--what's our obsession with dragons? Why do they resonate so strongly? Well, I thought about it for a while, and came up with this from the dregs of anthropology and art steeping in my brain: Dragons, like wolves and demons in other times and cultures, are the face western culture put on wildness--on the vast, unstoppable, inhuman forces that no one wants to ascribe to gods. Dragons always live in the waste, and only saints and heros can stand against them. 'Here there be dragons' could be written 'This we do not control.' Dragons weren't flying lizards, they were mountains, windstorms, mindless violence that required impossible sacrifice to placate or destroy. All renderings of dragons are right, some are just better at portraying that essential wildness..." by Ursula Vernon

Avea si o poza si dar textul mi s-a parut cel mai important

Apropo se pare ca am dat peste un alt text al domnisoare de mai sus care ar putea sa ne mai lumineze sau sa ne deschida noi orizonturi:

'Dragons, as we all know, are a highly sexually dimorphic species. Males become large lizardlike creatures, dedicated to acquiring hoards with which to attract potential mates. Female dragons, on the other hand, resemble pearly-skinned humans for much of their lifespan, the better to study the arts of gem appraisal, jewelsmithing, and flea-market antiquing, so that they can assess the value of a male's hoard down to the last penny and shop between potential mates. (Many of the original legends of draconic interest in virgins may actually be tales of female dragons in the juvenile stage scouting out a male's hoard.) Upon deciding on a male, the female undergoes a chysalis stage, whereupon, like butterflies, they emerge winged and extremely hungry. Male dragons who plan ahead will stock several sides of beef to forestall this, or else may find themselves backed into a corner of the hoard trying to fend off a ravenous female and uttering such useless lines as "Honey, can't we talk about this?"'

Are sens nu?
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post Oct 8 2005, 01:37 PM
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Are sens, dar daca imi aduc eu bine aminte pe prima pagina a topic-ului (pagina monopolizata de chris <_< ) scrie ca dragonii se inmultesc printr-un asa numit Dragon Slide ( parca, corectati-ma daca gresesc ). Este o teorie interesanta ca dragonii de fapt sunt fenome salbatica ale naturii, oamenilor le-a fost intotdeauna frica de ce nu pot controla si daca imi aduc eu bine aminte parca in Hanul Ancutei--bear with me a secon here-- :) chiar in introducere se spune ca in acel an au fost ploi cum nu se ma vazusera si se zvonea ca oamenii ar fi vazut un balaur in nori, deci de aici corespondenta dintre dragoni si fortele naturii. Si daca ma gandesc mai bine de aici si asocierea dragonilor cu elemente un incendiu de padure - dragon rosu, o inundatie - un dragon albastru, bine si acum depinde poate un ger mai puternic tot un dragon albastru. Parerea mea! *hic :D
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post Apr 23 2006, 06:21 PM
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Am deschis acest thread deoareca sunt innebunit dupa aceste creaturi. In acest thread sunt binevenite toate ideeile legate de dragoni. Eu personal voi incepe prin a prezenta 2 tipuri de dragoni: cei reali si cei mai putin vazuti.


1.Behold the Living Dragon, the Komodo Dragon. Living on a tiny island called Komodo, the ancestors of these giant lizards were walking the earth in prehistoric times as long as 40 - 60 million years ago. While they can not fly or breathe fire, Komodo Dragons can grow up to ten feet long and weigh as much as four hundred pounds. Armed with razor sharp teeth, the real-life dragon is capable of swalowing up to 80% of its own body weight in one meal.

(IMG:http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/489/komododragon10in.gif)

2. A blue dragon in the vision of Patricia Briggs in "Dragon bones".

"...He was easily twice as large as the stone dragon (basilisk),and much more fantastical.His narrow muzzle was deep midnight blue as were his feet and sharp talons.Above the muzzle and its businesslike teeth , the scales lighted to violet, a lighter shade than his Hurog blue eyes, altered only in shape, wich glittered against the darkness of his face. His wings , half folded, were edged in gold and black; the scaled skin connecting the fragile wing bones was lavender."

(IMG:http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/9619/01715mb.jpg)

3.A stone dragon in the vision of Patrcia Briggs in "Dragon bones"

" It was tall as Pansy* in the shoulders, but most of it's bulk was in lenght.Disregarding the size and a few other details, the basilisk looked a lot like the lizards that that played in the kings gardens at Estian.Green scales the size of my palm covered it from tip to tail.Emerald eyes blinked unconcernedly at us from the front of its head like predators everywhere
, but lizardlike, the eyes didn't appear to track in concert...
...Black horn spikes studded the tip of its tail and continued up the ridge of its back untill they dissapeared in the improbable ruff of scarlet feathers encircling its neck. A tongue as large as my arm flicked out of its mouth momentarily."
*Pansy is a horse
(IMG:http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8223/basili13vi.gif)

Ma scuzati pentru faptul ca descrierile sunt in engleza dar am observat ca in ultima vreme imi e mai usor sa gandesc in aceasta limba. Astept parerile voastre si ideeile in special.

[edit by Kisa] Exista deja un topic dedicat dragonilor. Topics merged.
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post May 20 2010, 02:17 PM
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Ca un fan al genului fantastic pot spune ca ador dragonii si ceea ce semnifica. Am citit destule carti si am jucat multe jocuri in care apareau dragoni in fel si chip. Am vazut diverse idei despre originea lor in fiecare poveste, de la soparle care au fost transformate cu ajutorul magiei in dragoni mari si puternici pana la gardienii lumii, aspectele universului si asa mai departe.

Ce nu imi place e "stiinta" asta pe nume Dracologie. Nu stiu care a fost cel care a inventat termenul dar sincer nu imi place cand incearca cineva sa faca un fel de pseudo-stiinta din ceva ce nu ar trebuii sa aibe conexiune cu lumea reala.

De acord ca povestile sunt inspirate din lumea reala si din necunoasterea omului primitiv a naturii dar totusi...lasati fatezia sa fie fantezie fara o eticheta "stiintifica".

Dragonii si alte creaturi mitice nu au nevoie de un arbore genealogic sau propria lor carte anatomica. Pentru povestea cuiva e frumos sa dai cateva detalii despre creaturile care le imaginezi dar a face o carte generala despre ele mi se pare de o absurditate groasa.

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