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> 誰か日本語を話すことができますか, vorbeste cineva japoneza?


post Mar 21 2007, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(Muza chan @ Mar 21 2007, 12:11 PM)

Intrebarea era de fapt daca in anime se foloseste limba dintr-o anumita zona sau nu. Si eventual alte informatii, daca stie cineva.
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In limba japoneza exista o mare diferenta intre japoneza scrisa si cea vorbita,iar in anime se pot remarca formele scurte caracteristice japonezei vorbite. Nu numai formele gramaticale ,ci si o serie de cuvinte isi schimba forma...pentru simplificare.Acelasi lucru l-am remarcat si in manga ( daca a citit cineva manga in japoneza...stie :) ) .
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post Mar 21 2007, 10:21 PM
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Stie cineva de unde se poat cumpara "almanah" manga in japoneza? Am vazut ca in e-shop din ro sunt numai in engleza.
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post Mar 29 2007, 09:07 PM
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Nu cred ca gasesti asa ceva de cumparat in Romania. eu am imprumutat de la liceu :P si cred ca si cei de la ambasada au la biblioteca :D ...sau gasesti pe cineva care a fost in japonia si a cumparat :D
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post Aug 26 2007, 05:58 PM
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hmm, interesant, cred k ma pun sa invat japoneza... :D :D :rolleyes: :lol:


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post Feb 26 2008, 10:49 PM
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しずかになった、ね。何をするんだお前ら?

「s-a facut liniste」 to ita. (o parte din prop)

まあ冗談。。。

si eu pe aici...prin desert...


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post Feb 27 2008, 10:38 AM
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Am si eu o rugaminte la tine daca se poate Kagome-chan? Din moment ce faci ja de atatia ani inseamna ca ai multe materiale de studiu.... crezi ca ai putea sa-mi trimiti si mie? Daca poti iti voi da adresa mea pe PM. Eu am facut ceva jap cu o fata din japonia dar a trebuit sa plece si nu am apucat sa invat mai nimic si materiale nu am prea multe iar net-u' nu-l am la discretie sa descarc ce vreau si cand vreau.


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post Jun 2 2011, 06:49 PM
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私は大学で日本語を勉強しています。話すことがまだ下手ã
 ã‘ど漢字を書くことが大好きだ。

好きな漢字は 書く と 狼 だ。

あなたの好きな漢字は何だか


(eu invat japoneza la facultate. inca nu ma pricep la vorbit, dar imi place foarte mult sa scriu kanji.

kanji mei preferati sunt kaku a scrie si ookami lup.

care este kanji-ul vostru preferat?)


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post Jun 4 2011, 04:05 PM
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Sei Ryuun Posted Jun 2 2011, 07:49 PM
私は大学で日本語を勉強しています。話すことがまだ下手ï¿
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�けど漢字を書くことが大好きだ。

好きな漢字は 書く と 狼 だ。

あなたの好きな漢字は何だか
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私は大学で日本語を勉強しています。話すことがまだ下手
ですけど漢字を書くことが大好きです。

好きな漢字は 書く と 狼 です。

あなたの好きな漢字は何ですか?
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Sei Ryuunさん勉強、頑張ってください!

          
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post Jun 4 2011, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(jirokichi3498 @ Jun 4 2011, 04:05 PM)

Sei Ryuunさん勉強、頑張ってください!

          
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はい、そうですね。そうします。
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post Jun 5 2011, 02:22 PM
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Show-offs...
Cine n-ar vrea sa poata invata japoneza in facultate... majoritatea raman tot cu o nesuferita de franceza.
これは、オンライン翻訳を使用して書かれています。私はå®
Ÿéš›ã«æ—¥æœ¬èªžã§å˜èªžã‚’書き込むことはできません。


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post Jun 5 2011, 02:37 PM
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Tinand cont ca singurul motiv pentru care as vrea sa invat japoneza e ca sa pot citi visual novels netraduse si nu ma intereseaza de loc scrisul si vorbit-ul, tactica mea pentru invatat japoneza este:
1. Invata hiragana+katakana
2. Invata gramatica
3. Citeste visual novel-uri folosind AGHT+Translation Agregator (si toate functionalitatile pe care acesta le are: ATLAS, WWWJDIC, Mecab, etc.) pentru a imi dezvolta vocabularul
4.???????
5.Profit

Momentan inca sunt la pasul 2. Of course, i'm very lazy so probably noting is ever going to come out of this.


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post Jun 5 2011, 02:48 PM
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Am mai incercat eu atlas si chestii dinastea ca sa citesc visual novels, but trust me when I say este indescifrabil. Chiar daca mai pricepi pe ici pe colo cate ceva vei pierde toate subtilitatile si cea mai buna parte din poveste. Ori inveti japoneza serios ori inghiti in gol si astepti, poate s-o mili cineva sa le traduca vreodata.


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Beatus vir qui suffert tentationem,
Quoniqm cum probates fuerit accipient coronam vitae.
Kyrie, ignis divine, eleison
O quam sancta, quam serena,
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post Jun 5 2011, 04:38 PM
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Tinand cont ca am tot folosit ATLAS in ultimii 2 ani i know first hand how horrible it translates. Ceea ce incerc eu sa fac implica mai putin partea de ATLAS si mai mult partea de mecab/Jparser care separa cuvintele din fraze si un dictionar gen WWWJDIC unde sa pot cauta respectivele cuvinte. Astfel pot sa invat kanji si cuvinte observandu-le in contextul in care sunt folosite. De asta e importanta invatarea gramaticii mai intai, pentru a intelege modul in care se leaga cuvintele in propozitii (prin particule etc.). Oricum, VN-urile care le-as folosi pentru invatat ar fi VN-uri de sacrificiu, care oricum nu ma intereseaza prea mult (probabil niste moege-uri usurele, doar nu o sa incerc sa invat japoneza citind VN-uri de la Railsoft, sau cele scrise de Romeo :) ).
Alternativa ar fi sa fac grinding de kanji, aka sa iau un dictionar de kanji si sa incep sa ii invat individual, ceea ce nu prea ar functiona la mine fiindca de obicei imi este destul de greu sa tin minte lucruri daca le lipseste contextul.


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post Jun 5 2011, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(cg1700 @ Jun 5 2011, 02:37 PM)
Tinand cont ca singurul motiv pentru care as vrea sa invat japoneza e ca sa pot citi visual novels netraduse si nu ma intereseaza de loc scrisul si vorbit-ul, tactica mea pentru invatat japoneza este:
1. Invata hiragana+katakana
2. Invata gramatica
3. Citeste visual novel-uri folosind AGHT+Translation Agregator (si toate functionalitatile pe care acesta le are: ATLAS, WWWJDIC, Mecab, etc.) pentru a imi dezvolta vocabularul
4.???????
5.Profit

Momentan inca sunt la pasul 2. Of course, i'm very lazy so probably noting is ever going to come out of this.
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De la pasul 2 la 3 e un gap imens pentru ca e japoneza normala/formala si apoi e japoneza din anime-uri. Sa poti sa citesti direct manga-uri (in general) imediat dupa ce ai invatat ceva gramatica si ... sa zicem primele 100 de kanji-uri ar fi un feat admirabil.
Sau nu stiu, poate asa sunt eu dar consider ca mai intai ai de trecut prin japoneza normala si sa te obisnuiesti cu texte pentru cei din clasa a 4-a si abia apoi ai putea sa treci sa citesti cu lejerinta ceva manga. And trust me, a 4-th grader text book in japanese is a difficult thing XD.
Cat despre kanji-uri... daca vrei sa le iei la rand sa le inveti poti sa iei primele 150 pentru inceput, cele care se dau si la examenul de certificare a limbii japoneze (JPLT).


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post Jun 5 2011, 04:57 PM
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