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post Sep 2 2008, 08:18 PM
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Cuvantul "anime" e un substantiv defectiv de numar, adica are aceasi forma si la singular si la plural, la fel ca si cuvintele "pui" "tei" "unchi" "nume". Deci forma de plural al substantivului "anime" e aceasi ca si cea de singular, un anime, doua anime(ex Un anime reusit, Doua anime reusite). SI am sa iti explic si de ce e asa. Cuvantul anime este imprumutat de la termenul frantuzesc pentru animatie, termen ce nu are forma diferita pentru plural. Termenul a fost preluat si de alte limbi precum cea engleza, limbi in care se foloseste tot aceeasi forma si la singular si la plural(one anime, two anime). In limba engleza (si in orice alta limba care a preluat cuvantul) nu ai sa gasesti forma de plural diferita de cea de singular, ex one anime, two animes...

"In English, anime can be used as a common noun ("Do you watch anime?" or as a suppletive adjective ("The anime Guyver is different from the movie Guyver". It may also be used as a mass noun, as in "How much anime have you collected?" and therefore is not pluralized as animes." Wikipedia

Scrie si aici... infine sper ca v-am lamurit.

Prin urmare, va rog frumos sa nu mai folositi cuvantul "animeuri "pentru ca dupa ce ca suna groaznic, zgarie urechile cand il auzi si ochii cand il citesti, e si incorect.
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post Sep 2 2008, 08:23 PM
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:lol: Eu cred ca il folosesc dupa cum imi vine. Atata timp cat nu apare in DOOM, nu ma simt obligata sa il folosesc nicicum. :) Pe mine nu ma zgarie la urechi "animeuri" si doar nu am de gand sa incep sa am grija de urechile altora. :P But good luck with teh revolution ftw!
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post Sep 2 2008, 08:45 PM
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I'll second Moonsparkle on that one. Daca nu apare in DOOM, il folosesc cum imi vine mai usor.
In plus, dupa cum dai si tu citatul din Wikipedia, "In English, anime bla, bla, bla". Ei bine, noi scriem aici mai mult in romana, nu in English (romana este chiar limba oficiala a forumului :P ).
But good luck! ^_^
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post Sep 2 2008, 08:47 PM
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-NO COMMENT- <_<
Dar uitati-va aici:
(IMG:http://www.fotoimagehost.ro/Direct/c08172137/anime.JPG)

Pentru Kisa si pentru ceilalti, nu am facut eu tabelul, uitati-va aici:
http://ro.wiktionary.org/wiki/anime#rom.C3.A2n.C4.83
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post Sep 2 2008, 08:49 PM
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reazor9, da un link cu sursa tabelului, te rog. Sa fie la fel de credibila ca Wikipedia. ;)
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post Sep 2 2008, 08:50 PM
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lol, reazor. sursa? link or it didn't happen. :P

As for anime comes from French, lookie here.

LE: ups, didn't see Kisa's post :P oricum, nu ii ca si cum wikipedia ar fi mare sursa oficiala, dar tot e ceva. In orice caz mai bun decat o posibila poza din paint. :P

LLE: Ok, I take back what I said about paint, but my wiki point still stands. Pana nu vad in sursa oficiala, tot o sa scriu "doua anime" sau "animeuri/-uri" dupa cum imi vine. :P
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post Sep 2 2008, 08:54 PM
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@Moonsparkle: :P

Multumim, reazor. Eh... Oricat de mare sursa oficiala ar fi Wikipedia, Wiktionarul mi se pare de acelasi nivel.

[edit] Vrem sursa oficiala! :P
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post Sep 2 2008, 09:01 PM
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Mi-e cam greu să iau de bune informaţiile dintr-o pagină în care în loc de limba olandeză se scrie limba neerlandeză. :lol:

Ca să nu mă frig cu pronunţia, eu le spun desene animate japoneze şi am rezolvat problema. :)
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post Sep 2 2008, 09:03 PM
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Desene animate japoneze e mult prea mult deranj pentru gustul meu :P dar is de acord cu credibilitatea Wikiţionarului(?!). Adica anime in vocativ? :lol: Talk about being an otaku...
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post Sep 2 2008, 09:15 PM
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hm.... chiar zgarie urechile? esti primul/prima care se plange :P animeuri.... suna ok. subscriu la ce au postat si ceilalti, as vrea sa vad o nota oficiala, in care se spuna ca este incorecta folosirea formelor de plural "anime-uri", "anime-ele" etc, cate or mai fi utilizate. nu m-as increde atat de mult in wikipedia.... acolo, daca nu ma insel, poate scrie oricine - si eu, si tu, anyone. ;)
si ca si fiu putin... rea? :D incerc sa urmez regulile din DOOM; in el nu scrie ca nu se foloseste forma "animeuri", prin urmare, eu o voi folosi. ca si multi altii de fapt. :)
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post Sep 2 2008, 09:21 PM
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Ah, da cui ii pasa cum se zice ? <_< ... facem cumva teoria chibritului , bored to death ?
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post Sep 2 2008, 09:25 PM
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Ce e gresit la teoria chibritului? :mellow: I'm a big fan of teoria chibritului, it leads to a lot of funny fights. :lol:

Si de fapt in DOOM "anime" nu apare deloc, deci s-ar putea la fel de bine ca Nav sa aiba dreptate. :)
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post Sep 2 2008, 09:30 PM
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ca si multe alte cuvinte imprumutate din alte limbi (chiar avem o gramada de termeni "furati" din engleza tehnica ce se folosesc ca atare din lipsa unei traduceri acurate sau a uneia mult prea anevoioase) cind se foloseste termenul la forma de plural in marea majoritate a cazurilor terminatia ce se adauga este "uri"

un mic ex:
patch cord - singular
patch cord-uri - plural

... cred ca revolutia asta nu-si are sensul ... B)
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post Sep 2 2008, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(Moonsparkle @ Sep 2 2008, 07:25 PM)
Ce e gresit la teoria chibritului? :mellow: I'm a big fan of teoria chibritului, it leads to a lot of funny fights. :lol:
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Da, se poate chiar redescoperii chibritul :lol: ... round and round we go,were we stop nobody know *hic*
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post Sep 2 2008, 09:56 PM
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Chibritul e tot timpul acolo, grasshopper. You just have to see it with the eyes of your heart.

Ontopic: Ah, ah, Nav-san, where are thou? Vreau sa stiu cum se zice "Anime-urile acelea sunt clasice." in varianta fara plural. Zgariatul sau nezgariatul pe urechi e intr-adevar o chestie de gust, dar pe mine "Anime acelea sunt clasice." ma zgarie urat de tot. :P
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post Sep 2 2008, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(Moonsparkle @ Sep 2 2008, 07:56 PM)
You just have to see it with the eyes of your heart.


Aaaaw, how touching :wub: ... that one was very deep ... o trecut direct prin ochii corazonului :lol:
Let's stay offtopic :P, more fun this way (da de aia tot vreau sa-i aud raspunsul la "problema" ta :D )


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post Sep 2 2008, 10:19 PM
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pai, sparkle-chan, cred ca ar veni .... "acele anime sunt clasice" :D nu? si suna destul de normal :-? desigur, cu "-uri" in coada suna mai bine :D
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post Sep 2 2008, 10:31 PM
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Vom astepta vreo 15 ani sa apara DOOM3 sa vedeti ca ati abuzat de limba romana :D
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Si cat o sa mai suferim noi... :P In plus, DOOM e plin de prostii in mare parte. Pana la urma sa scrii dupa regulile DOOM inseamna doar ca vorbesti corect din punct de vedere oficial si aia nu e chiar totul, desi cei care fac regulile is experti, se zice. :P
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post Sep 2 2008, 11:55 PM
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Hai sa le romanizam in totalitate atunci

Un animeu; doua animeuri
Un mangau; doua mangauri

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