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post Apr 30 2004, 01:46 PM
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Baieti,stau de cateva zile incoace si incerc sa clasific cateva trupe rock dar cu pricat ajutor am prim it nu am reusit sa indentific nici cateva genuri.Daca cineva se pricepe,sa faca o lista cu genurile rock si sa dea vreo doua trei exemple.PLS!
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post Apr 30 2004, 04:30 PM
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Eu rock-ul l-as clasifica in felul urlator:

1. Alternative
2. Classic
3. Gothic
4. Metal :twisted: Gye
5. Pregressive
6. Punk
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post Apr 30 2004, 10:10 PM
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Parerea mea:

1.Rock'n'Roll:Elvis Presley
2.Progresiv:Yes, Pink Floyd, Genesis
3.Rock "Normal":Dire Straits
4.Hard Rock:Led Zeppelin, Scorpions
5.Heavy Metal:Deep Purple, Metallica
6.Alternativ - Grunge:Nirvana, Pearl Jam
Gothic:Evanescence, Nightwish
Power Metal:Sonata Arctica
Alternativ "Normal":Linkin Park
Rap Metal:Limpbizkit
7.Folk Rock:Phoenix, Jethro Tull

Altceva nu imi mai vine deocamdata in cap.
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post Apr 30 2004, 11:04 PM
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alea-s numai cateva dintre genurile principale , sunt mult mai multe subgenuri (exemple de punk la www.punktastic.com). Apropo sethi , defineste "alternative" , pentru ca limp bizkit n-au nici o treaba cu alternative-u , plus ca alternative metalu e mult supraconsiderat , cand in esenta e acelasi lucru cu nu metalu.
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post May 3 2004, 04:58 PM
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Am renuntat de mult sa incerc o clasificare a trupelor rock. In primul rand nu toti avem aceleasi 'viziuni'. Nici pana in ziua de azi nu s-a gasit o definitie universala, de exemplu, a rock-ului progresiv. Sigur, sunt destui care-mi pot oferi o explicatie insa nici una nu va reflecta adevarul in proportie de 100%.
Sa dau un exemplu. Pentru mine formatia X canta Power Metal, Gigel e de parere ca-i Heavy Metal, dar membrii X afirma ca muzica lor face parte de fapt din genul Eclectic Metal. Acum cine are dreptate? Creatorii, criticii sau mii lor de fani ce striga sus si tare ca-i Power Metal? Greu, greu si confuz ... :) Consider ca rock-ul din ziua de azi contine atat de multe influente incat singurul rezultat al unei clasificari nu poate fi decat o confuzie si mai mare :)

Personal cred ca formula "X canta in genul lui Y" este mult mai eficienta si edificatoare decat "X canta rock/punk/metal etc".
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post May 9 2004, 10:26 PM
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Cele mai multe albume pot fi incadrate intr-unul sau mai multe genuri. Nu am spus formatii pentru ca multe isi schimba stilul de la album la album. Therion a pornit de la death si a ajuns cea nedefinit, care poate fi considerat simfonic, gothic sau habar n-am...

Exista cateva trupe la care poti zice clar ca au adoptat un anume gen muzical, pe care si-l mentin pana la sfarsitul carierei. AC/DC canta hard rock orice i-ai face, Iron Maiden a inventat heavy-metal-ul (ma rog, discutabil... nu asta conteaza acum) asa ca ce canta nu poate fi numit altfel decat heavy-metal. La fel si Death, formatia care a dat chiar numele genului: death-metal. Insa cine vrea sa categoriseasca Nightwish (power sau gothic-metal), Tristania (gothic, doom sau black?) si altele asemenea, isi va consuma neuronii, neuroni care sigur nu se vor mai reface. :) Asa ca e suficient sa zici ca albumul X de la formatia Y are elemente din genurile A, B si C si cu asta basta.
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post Jun 23 2004, 07:49 PM
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dar totusi, macar principalele genuri trebuie stiute. daca coneva e interesat de heavy metal si cumpara un album punk rock nu o sai prinda bine.

eu eram interesata de diferenta intre hard rock si nu-metal(preferatele mele)

am auzit de psychedilic rock sau asa ceva, stie ceva ce e?
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post Jun 25 2004, 09:37 PM
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nightwish , power metal ?! :? vezi capitolu' anthrax

blackinque , hard rocku e databil ca fiind o creatie a anilor 80. Gandeste-te la guns 'n roses , ac/dc sau albumele mai vechi bon jovi , chiar si europe. Nu metal inseamna (mot a mot) metal new school. Exemplele variaza de la Drowning Pool la System of a down sau Slipkont. Dupa cum vezi , diferenta intrele hr si nu metal e ca de la cer la pamant. Cat despre psychedelic rock , e o ruda mai old-school a metalului progresiv ... Daca vrei sa cauti in radacini mai adanci , cauta in albume mai vechi Pink Floyd. Daca vrei ceva mai nou , Dream Theatre sau Crimson Glory s-ar putea sa fie solutiile.
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post Jun 26 2004, 11:05 AM
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yep...Rock-ul s-a schimbat mult...blendu e mult mai accentuat decit acu' 20 de ani....purismu' intre genuri a disparut...ceva bun are multe elemente din diferite genuri...o simfonie pe ritmuri dure oricind imi gidila timpanele...
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post Jul 13 2004, 12:21 AM
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Oclasificare este facuta deja de specialisti dar nemaipunand la socoteala si combinatiile dintre genuri ar fi cam asa:

1. Progressive - Dream Theater
2. Doom - Tiamat
3. Power Melodios - Helloween
4. Power - Pantera
5. Gothic - Empyrium
6. Heavy - Black Sabbath
7. Punk - Sex Pistols
8. Black - Marduk
9. Death - Cannibal Corpse
10. Grindcore - Exhumed
11. Hardcore - Soulfly
12. Trash - Slayer
13. Horror - King Diamond
14. Rock'n'roll - Elvis Presley
15. Rock - "Directia 5"
16. Dark - Darkseed
17. Viking - Falkenbach

Si cam atat imi aduc aminte la ora asta! Daca imi mai aduc aminte ceva voi mai scrie!!!!
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post Jul 13 2004, 03:04 PM
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Specialisti, eh?

Tiamat n-au de a face cu DOOM-ul. Intra la Gothic. Au inceput cu un fel de Doom/Death Metal insa s-au indepartat de acest gen cu fiecare nou album, albumul Wildhoney fiind reprezentativ pentru genul Gothic.

Empyrium canta un Doom Metal ambiental cu influente folc. Subiectele lor preferate sunt natura si misticismul. Dupa cum vezi nu prea au legatura cu Gothic-ul.

Pantera power? N-am inteles niciodata de ce sunt catalogati astfel. Thrash + altele.
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post Jul 14 2004, 12:31 AM
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Pe Nightwish i-am vazut catalogati ca operatic-metal. Cert e ca nu canta nici cel mai clasic power sau gothic ci o combinatie intre ele, ceva mai mult spre power-metal.

Genul cantat de Slayer (si Pantera, printre altii) se numeste thrash, nu trash. Bataie, nu gunoi.

De hardcore n-am auzit decat in domeniul house/techno, acolo exista un asemenea gen. Soulfly canta nu-metal, o combinatie de metal cu hip-hop.

Rock - Directia 5? Rock-ul este un gen foarte larg, ca si metal-ul, e aiurea sa dai atatea exemple de subgenuri ale metal-ului iar rock-ul sa-l descrii cu o singura formatie. Exista hard-rock (AC/DC), psychedelic-rock (Pink Floyd), glam-rock (Bon Jovi) si multe altele subgenuri.
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post Jul 14 2004, 02:26 PM
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Soulfly nu metal taica ? :? guess again. Soulfly e hardcore toata ziua. Si ce daca au tente de rap ? Toata lumea are tente zilele astea :) Apropo , ce dracu-i aia operatic metal ? Nightwish sunt symphonic black metal and that's that.
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post Jul 14 2004, 02:51 PM
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Nightwish sunt operatic metal, operatic probabil vine de la opera. Symphonic black metal? Poate symphonic metal (care nu mi se pare prea gresit), dar black? Black-ul e cu totul altceva.

Soulfly canta sigur nu-metal. Din cate stiu, nu exista nici un subgen de metal numit hardcore, dar nu exclud posibilitatea sa ma insel.

Nightwish
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post Jul 14 2004, 03:00 PM
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Duncan, Black-ul si Nightwish? Mai gandeste-te ... Sau vrei sa ajungem sa ne duelam in definitii? :)
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hardcuoore
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post Jul 16 2004, 11:20 AM
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hehe...ce se mai strofoaca lumea sa se catalogheze....pour moi c'est tre simple...muzica care imi place o numesc muzica....restu' rebuturi...usor nu...ignorance is a Bliss :D ..u got to love it...
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post Jul 23 2004, 03:52 PM
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evident ca asa se intampla...depinde de starea in care ma aflu...pot asculta un rock suparat sau o balada, dar la fel de repede pot asculta o parodie (planeta moldova sau divertis) sau orice altceva...punk, R&B, electronica, si poate(daca nu-s intreg la minte...un peu de house)...anything goes..atata timp cat sa-mi placa mie... :wink:
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post Aug 19 2004, 12:14 PM
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hm...am facut rost de la Kalmah de 2 albume Swampsong si SwampLord...superbe....ceva si mai mortal e Norther...luat in sf albumele Deat Unlimited, Dreams Of Endless War, Mirror of Maddness....mi-e mila de vecini :twisted:

Ps: mercy Demi pt initiere :wink:
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post Sep 24 2004, 12:30 PM
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Chiar nu se ajungea nicaieri cu aceasta clasificare...toti is specialisti cand vine vorba de clasificari...... de exemlpu careva scria ca evanescence e gothic.....mie nu imi suna a gothic deloc..... prefer sa o bag in aceasi oala cu toate formatiile astea noi, sa zicem nu metal.... sau maibine sa fim ignoranti ca sid in ce priveste genurile muzicale si sa ascultam ce ne place cand ne place.......
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