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post Sep 18 2011, 02:04 PM
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Dar daca majoritatea este neutra si doar o minoritate foarte activa este cea care militeaza activ impotriva unei idei? (cum de fapt cred eu ca este si cazul nostru)
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post Sep 18 2011, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(BlackHand @ Sep 18 2011, 02:04 PM)
Dar daca majoritatea este neutra si doar o minoritate foarte activa este cea care militeaza activ impotriva unei idei? (cum de fapt cred eu ca este si cazul nostru)
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Atunci am fi intr-o situatie absolut geniala :): pentru ca o majoritate neutra poate fi convinsa mult mai usor decat o majoritate bolnava de prejudecati.

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Nu am inteles prea bine la ce te referi...cine este "minoritatea" aici? Homosexualii sau cei care sustin miscarea de toleranta?
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post Sep 18 2011, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(darczon69 @ Sep 18 2011, 04:06 PM)
Atunci am fi intr-o situatie absolut geniala :): pentru ca o majoritate neutra poate fi convinsa mult mai usor decat o majoritate bolnava de prejudecati.
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Sunt curios cum incearca cineva sa convinga masele apatice sa reactioneze impotriva unei minoritati ce-si face simtita prezenta atat de vehement.
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post Sep 19 2011, 01:32 PM
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Intradevar oamenii neutri sunt mai usor de convins sa accepte ceva decat oameni care sunt importiva acelui ceva, problema vine cand trebuie sa ii convingi pe cei neutri sa faca ceva importiva celor cu prejudici. Pentru ca nu o sa le pese le fel de mult cum nu le pasa de ceva fac homosexuali in cazu nostru.

Majoritatea vrea mereu sa isi vada de treaba ei, nu sa se bage in treaba altora, de asta minoritatea cu gura mare are castig de cauza, pentru ca e guraliva, proasta de gura, se aprind usor, produc audienta la KKT-TV si nu sunt atacati decat cu vorbe pe cand ei sunt dispusi sa atace fizic. Stirile nu se fac cu 'all is well' stirile se fac cu 'the end is coming', pentru ca atat de cacacioasa e lumea noastra facuta de o minoritate guraliva, lumea nostra unde e de ajuns un lup sa sperie toate oile.
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post Sep 19 2011, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(IceJack @ Sep 19 2011, 01:32 PM)
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QUOTE(IceJack @ Sep 19 2011, 01:32 PM)
obiceii oamenii idiotii
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Ce articulat esti.
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post Sep 19 2011, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(BlackHand @ Sep 19 2011, 09:56 PM)
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Ce articulat esti.
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post Sep 19 2011, 06:34 PM
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Ca fapt divers, era un articol acum ceva vreme pe nush ce site despre cati trebuie sa adopte o idee ca sa devina mainstream. Si cifra era pe la 10%.

Deci da, nu prea avem nevoie de majoritate pentru nici una din "opinii". Ceea ce ne duce la pozitia f. funny de a avea 2 idei complet opuse, ambele mainstream. Joy oh joy.
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post Sep 19 2011, 07:48 PM
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Conform acestei teorii, putem avea pana la 10 idei mainstream...ceea ce ma face sa ma indoiesc de seriozitatea studiului.

Eu consider ca o idee va deveni mainstream atunci cand va fi "cool", si, asa cum a punctat foarte bine IceJack, va fi difuzata la OTV, Realitatea si altele de genul asta.
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post Sep 19 2011, 10:31 PM
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Fixed.

In cazul nostru, eu nu vad decat 3 pozitii:
1)Anti activ (minoritate)
2)Indiferent Anti (majoritate) si Indiferent Pentru (majoritate)
3)Pentru activ (minoritate)

Indiferentii sunt aceeia care nu se gandesc la homosexualitate pana nu trebuie sunt pusi fata in fata cu homosexuali/ale/, moment in care vor arata relativ subtil daca sunt Pentru sau Anti. In restul cazurilor daca nu se aduce vorba despre homosexualitate nu o sa le pese. Majoritate oamenilor o sa fie pasivi, au o parare fixa asupra homosexualitatii dar nu ii deranjeaza situatia destul de mult cat sa fie activi. Pe scurt zis, daca homosexualitatea nu este in centrul atentie majoritatea oameniilor nu o sa se gandeasca la ea si la pozitia lor fata de ea.

Castig de cauza 1, minoritatea anti activa.

De ce castiga anti activi? Simplu, fiind o chestie considerata foarte rea public (dar inca legala) va atrage atentia KKT TV-ului foarte usor si se va mentine in atentia KKT TV-ului le fel de usor, pe cand actiunile bune pentru situatie vor primi in cel mai bun caz o atentie trecatoare. De asemena vor atrage tot felul de oamenii care desi nu au probleme cu homosexualitatea vor sa isi arunce ura asupra ceva.

Situatia homosexualitatii in majoritatea lumii este urmatoarea: Acceptata moral, acceptata public, ne-acceptata legal, ne-acceptata in particular, ne-acceptata religios.
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post Sep 20 2011, 09:05 AM
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Si, iata, ajungem la radacina acestei probleme si nu numai: massmedia, "zeul" modern.

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Yep. Din pacate, asa este.
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post Sep 20 2011, 08:38 PM
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As zice ca e un cerc vicios, oamenii vor KKT si stirile produc KKT ca oamenii sa ceara mai mult KKT.
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post Sep 20 2011, 11:34 PM
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You are wasting too much of your posting energy here, in loc sa o folositi pentru thread-uri serioase like Asta sau Aia, Guess the screenshot, 4chan topics, etc.
Just curious, ce ar trebui sa insemne un anti activ? Vaneaza homosexuali pe strada si le otraveste lubrifiantii?
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post Sep 21 2011, 02:31 AM
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It's our energy to waste! :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Anti-Homosexuality_Bill


"Uganda's proposed Anti-Homosexuality Bill (also known as the "Kill the Gays Bill"), if enacted, would broaden the criminalisation of same-sex relations by introducing the death penalty for people who have previous convictions, are HIV-positive, or engage in sexual acts with people of the same sex or for adults who do so with those under 18 years of age"

"The private member's bill was submitted by MP David Bahati in Uganda on 14 October 2009.[4] Same-sex relationships are currently illegal in Uganda—as it is in many sub-Saharan African countries—punishable by incarceration in prison for up to 14 years"

"According to human rights organisations, at least 500,000 gay people live in Uganda out of a total population of 31 million."

Un exemplu perfect de Anti Activ este David Bahati (retardatul care a propus legea asta) el si omenii care sunt de acord cu acest excrement ambulant, adica politician obisnuit.

Fun facts:
"The world population is the total number of living humans on the planet Earth, currently estimated to be 6.96 billion by the United States Census Bureau as of July 1, 2011"

"What percent of the world is gay:
The more rigorous studies have shown different results within a range of 0.6 to 5.4 percent. These studies include Bell-Weinberg, 1970 (~2 percent); Billy-Battelle, 1993 (1.1 percent); Cameron-Ross, 1975-78 (~3 percent); Catania-NABS, 1992 (2 percent); FRI, 1983 (5.4 percent); MacDonald, 1988 (2 percent); NCHS, 1988-91 (3.5 percent); Schmidt, 1987 (0.6 percent); and Trocki, 1988-89 (3 percent)."



As such, in my humble opinion, if you have a problems with gays you should really CUT THE CRAP! There are a lot of things more common that can replace gays as an easy hate target. (I'm going for stupid people and politicians, bugs are also widespread.)

Din pacate totul (la o sacara gloabala) se reduce la dorinta omului de a isi controla semeni. Se cauta automatoni.
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post Sep 21 2011, 05:34 AM
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Eu urasc tantarii. De ce nu se face o lege ca toti tantarii sa fie exterminati? Asa am mai salva vreo cativa copii din Africa.

Just saying.

Si nu este ciudat ca aproape la fel de multi oameni joaca World of Warcraft cati sunt homosexuali pe Pamant? :lol:
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post Sep 26 2011, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(darczon69 @ Sep 21 2011, 05:34 AM)
Si nu este ciudat ca aproape la fel de multi oameni joaca World of Warcraft cati sunt homosexuali pe Pamant?  :lol:
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Asta ar explica de ce sunt atat de multi paladini pe realmu unde joc eu. They love the pink, don't they?
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post Oct 3 2011, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(BlackHand @ Sep 26 2011, 09:46 PM)
Asta ar explica de ce sunt atat de multi paladini pe realmu unde joc eu. They love the pink, don't they?
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Un pic Off topic, dar nu ma pot abtine: :lol:

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Telling your parents you're gay :D.
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