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post Jan 19 2004, 10:14 PM
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Ma bucur ca exista oameni care apreciaza aceasta carte superba. Nu sunt dintre cei care fac comlimente gratuite dar shogunul e una dintre cele mai bune carti citite de mine(si am citit ceva, nu e singura, daca asta vroiati sa-mi ziceti :D )
Da, filmul nu prea reda atmosfera din carte, si asta din cauza ca ar fi fost mai indicat un film split-parts, in vreo 4 parti, mult mai amplu, care sa prezinte mai multe episoade din carte(detaliile fac totul in conturarea unui personaj).
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post Jan 19 2004, 10:14 PM
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Se pare ca nu toti au aceeasi parere despre aceasta carte e-Z, citeste tot daca ai ocazia.


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post Jan 19 2004, 10:14 PM
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un film nu se ridica niciodata la valoarea unei carti.


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post Jan 19 2004, 10:14 PM
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Niciodata nu se intampla asa ceva, it will be a cold day in hell !!!! :twisted: :D


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post Jan 19 2004, 10:14 PM
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Am teminat de citit vol.1, sunt la al doilea.Este extraordinar!
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post Apr 22 2004, 09:20 AM
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Impresia mea cand vad un film facut dupa o carte, in cazul in care am citit respectiva carte, este de fals, de dezamagire. Adica, eu deja mi-am format un set de imagini despre ce ar trebui sa se intample, si cand vad ceea ce a crezut regizorul ca trebuie sa vad, sunt deziluzionat.
In cazul shogunului, mai ales pentru ca a fost foarte "esentializat"(in viziunea regizorului), redus la 2(sau cate or fi) ore de film, sentimentul e pregnant.


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post Apr 22 2004, 09:53 AM
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e-Z, daca vrei sa vezi un film apropiat cartii, bogat in detalii - iti recomand calduros serialul. Este mai vechi, este drept, dar superior filmului.

Eu am citit cartea si am vazut apoi serialul - sunt apropiate.

PS: Frost, in Bv se dau cursuri, gratis, la Centrul Japonez, de catre profesori din Japonia. : )


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post May 28 2004, 03:13 AM
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Mi-au placut mult cartile lui James Clavell , mai ales cele referitoare la Japonia..tara pe care incearca sa o "fotografieze" intr-un mod unic, de la aparitia Gaijin-ilor si pina in perioada sa de dezvoltare industriala ( Tai PaN) . O carte care mi-a placut mult se numeste Chiangi , scrisa de acelasi autor , o descriere a vietii de zi cu zi intr-un lagar de munca japonez , unde cafeaua , tigarile, si tot ceea ce insemna civilizatie..ajung sa rivalizeze cu aurul..controlate de catre King ..un rege intr-un mic univers , rupt de lumea exterioara...Daca nu ma insel ultimile lui carti , mai exact 2 volume la fel de voluminoase precum shogun-ul se numesc
Virtejul , si chiar daca nu au legatura cu Japonia , captiveaza la fel de mult . La fel ca multi altii ( i guess) m-a ajuat sa inteleg mai bine Iranul ca tara , ca mentalitate , pentru ca da ..despre Iran este vorba..si despre acel Allah atat de pretuit..de arabi ,si modul in care hotaririle unor oameni pot sa devina voia lui Allah. Aceasta carte incearca sa arunce o raza de lumina asupra evenimentelor din anul 1979 , cind imamul Khomeni reuseste sa inlature de la putere casa regala , inlocuind-o cu o adevarata dictatura purtind masca religiei...lucru ramas neschimbat pina in ziua de azi..
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post May 28 2004, 02:03 PM
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A citit shogun... am impresia ca e cel ami mare roman citit de mine... si am si celelalte de la Clavell in biblioteca. eu zic ca merita... si versiunea in romaneste... adica eu nu ma mai puteam opri.


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post Jun 25 2004, 01:14 PM
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Ba si io am citit toata cartea si am vazut si filmu si mi se pare ca a iesit bine oricum! Dar oricum red ca este foarte greu pentru cineva care nu este samurai sa inteleaga adevarata profunzime a acestei cartii minunate ( poate daca face misogi (daca stiti ce-i aia) mult timp) :shock:
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post Jul 13 2004, 11:00 PM
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si eu am citit si cartea si am vazut si filmul...ca de obicei...cartea bate filmul de departe!....both r good....cine n`a citit cartea... v`o recomand..impreuna cu Nobila Casa, Tai Pei si restu din colectie...
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post Jul 16 2004, 01:55 PM
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Shogunu e imens....nu avut ocazia sa citesc atata...oricum stiu ca merita...


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post Apr 23 2007, 09:16 PM
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Mi-a placut Shogun tocmai pt k e scris din perspectiva strainului. Si este un inceput extraordinar pt a afla despre cultura japoneza. N-am vazut filmul, dar am vazut seria care se apropie f mult de carte (dak nu ma insel James Clavell s-a implicat in realizarea ei, but i could be wrong.. :unsure: )


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