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yuki
post Jan 19 2004, 10:14 PM
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Voiam demult sa deschid un topic despre Gundam Wing dar nu stiam unde, si cum Gundam Wing = mecha , aici e locul potrivit.

Am vazut tot Gundam Wing -ul, inclusiv Endless Waltz si am inceput Gundam Seed. A durat ceva pana m-am hotarat sa vad acest anime. Din imagini credeam ca nu o sa-mi placa fiind cu roboti & stuff, in plus credeam ca va fi banala poveste cu o echipa de 5. Dar de la primul episod am fost placut impresionata si am devorat episod dupa episod ( are 52 ). Nu ma asteptam sa aiba un story atat de interesant. In plus sound track-ul e superb.

Din Gundam Seed nu am vazut decat primul episod , dar a fost de ajuns ca sa-mi dau seama ca vreau toata seria.

Mai sunt si alte serii Gundam, dar mai vechi si nu cred ca vreau sa le vad.

Cine a vazut Gundam Wind il astept sa-si exprime impresiile.
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pai eu l-am vazut....si mi-a placut foarte mult. E super. Dar eu am facut o greseala cand l-am vazut..am vazut filmul...inainte de serie :D ....si cand am inceput sa ma uit la serie...numai intelegeam nimic...adica ajunsesem la ep. 45 si nu erau robotii din film :D . Dar am intrat pe net si am inteles ca sunt schimbati in film.

Cred ca o sa fac un thread mare, dar mai incolo.

Oricum vreau sa te intreb ce pilot si ce Gundam ti-a placut. Mie mi-a placut Duo si Gundam-ul lui Death Scyther
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Si eu am vazut Gundam Wing impreuna cu Endless Waltz. Super serialul si filmul. Sa nu mai vorbesc de muzica. TWO-MIX canta excelent. Tot ma chinui sa gasesc OST-ul de la Wing.
Ca Gundam imi place Wing Zero.
Cat despre Seed, nu am apucat sa il vad, desi am melodia de intro care este SUPER.
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Dinte Gundam mi-a placut si mie Death Scythe dar dintre piloti e dificil sa aleg...eu salivam dupa Zechs ( mai ales ca are vocea lui Koyasu Takehito ) dar dintre cei cinci Duo sau Heero. Mi-ar fi placut mult si Quatre daca nu avea numele asta stupid.

Am doar 4 episoade din Gundam Seed si sa na chinui cu Kazaa la fiecare episod si tot il iau. Am cazut pe spate, e superb. Mai ales scenele de lupta. Sunt mult ma dinamice.
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Yuki, de ce nu incerci sa le iei cu BitTorrentul. Am vazut acolo episoade din Gundam Seed de iti vine rau :D (cam vreo 39 de episoade) si pe BitTorrent nu tre sa astepti sa gaseasca un loc liber.
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pai cred ca asa am sa fac. De-abia ieri am vazut linkul pe forum.
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uite aici o adresa de unde faci rost de multe serii noi de pe BitTorrent

http://www.animesuki.com/releases.php/g.html
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Mai am si eu 6 episoade din serie, si sa vad si eu Endless Waltz. Este calumea, dar m-am uitat intr-un moment inoportun. :(

Dintre Gundamuri, imi place Nataku si Epyon, iar dintre piloti, imi place Who Fei, Duo, Troua si Milliardo.
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Stiu ca nu va face placere urmatoarea intrebare dar o sa intreb totusi. Vi s-a parut ca in Gundam Wing ar fi o tenta de Shounen ai ? O sa va spun ce gandesc eu dar vreau sa aud intai parerile voastre.

Si o intrebare serioasa : de ce v-a placut GW ? Si ce v-a placut la personajele , eventual gundam-ul preferat ? Orice alte impresii sunt bine venite.

Incep eu. Mi-a placut in primul rand povestea pentru ca nu erau tipii rai si aia buni. Cel putin asa mi s-a parut mie). La fel e si in Gundam seed. E greu sa spui cine e partea negativa. Pe parcurs, story-ul ia f. multe intorsaturi. Mi-a placut mult evolutia lui Zechs / Miliard. Cred ca e cel mai cool. Mi-a placut in general, legatura dintre piloti si gundam-uri, adica nu sunt infatisate doar ca niste simplii roboti. Mai ales Duao si Death Scythe.
Mi-a placut Quatre tocmai pentru firea sa care nu e caracteristica unui pilot. Si e simpatic, pentru ca e opusul lui Heero.
Imi pare rau ca in anime nu au fost mai multe detalii despre trecutul pilotilor. de exemplu am citit pe un site chestii f. interesante din manga. Cum ar fi de ce isi spune Duo, Shinigami , sau trecutul sau, etc.
O alta caracteristica , pe care am observat-o si in Gundam Seed, este modul cum incepe anime-ul, adica ai impresia ca nu iei anime-ul de la inceput ci te afluu deja in mijlocul actiunii. La fel nu stii cat de departe se situeaza timpul actiunii fata de anul in care suntem, ci se stie ca e in viitor.
sfarsitul nu e absolut, nu se stie daca va domni pacea eterna. De altfel inca ma gandesc daca actiunea din Gunam Seed se petrece dupa cea din GW. Tot ce-i posibil.
As vrea mult sa vorbesc si despre GS dar astept sa-l vad pe tot, si sa-l vada si altii. Oricum e acel gen de anime la care ma uit si pentru 25 de minute nu mai exista nimic altceva in jurul meu.
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:D Yuki...Yuki...ce-o sa ne facem noi cu tine :D

Mie mi-a placut ca are o poveste cat de cat buna.....ca are actiune...personaje cu personaliati bine dezvoltate......imi palc Gundam-urile.........personajul preferat ti l-am dat mai sus :D ...in rest ce sa spun...mi-a placut.

Dar are cam multe ep. puteau sa-l faca mai mic
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Ce-i drept, sunt multe episoade care sunt de umplutura... dar ideea promovata e foarte bine scoasa in evidenta in ultimele episoade.
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Eu nu as zice ca are episode de umplutura ( tocmai de aceea mi-a placut, povestea nu ma lasa sa ma plictisesc). Singurele in plus au fost cele in care se facea un rezumat de pe la mijlocul seriei. Am observat ca exista in multe anime "moda " asta. Ca e o poveste lunga, asta-i altceva.
Episoade de umplutura sunt in Utena, Kenshin, ca sa nu mai vorbesc de Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou ( His & Her Circumstances ) unde imi venea sa ma impusc, ca nu se mai intampla aproape nimic de pe la jumatatea seriei.
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Ok sa incep si eu Gundam-ul meu preferat e Death Scythe H(ala modificat pentru space flight--cel putin asa se numeste pe www.gundamofficial.com. Pilotii preferati Duo,Heero si cam atat si cat despre ceilalti gundam-i imi plac Shenlong si WingZero
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Gundam Wing are episoade de umplutura... sunt putine dar are. Pe mine m-au plictisit cateva, fie ca nu se intampla nimic, ca e retrospectiva, sau ca se intamplau lucruri previzibile. Este la moda faza cu episodul cu retrospectiva si am gasit asa ceva si la SDK care are 26 episoade... :?

P.S.: Yuki, am aflat din SDK ce inseamna nickul tau... se pare ca avem ceva in comun ;)
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Yuki inseamna zapada , l-am ales ca-mi placea forte mult un personaj cu numele acesta, si au urmat si alte serii in care unele personaje poarta acelasi nume. Si se intampla sa fie si personajele mele preferate din seria respectiva^_^ ...( BTw Yukimura is may favourite din SDK )
Mi-a placut mult prima data cand l-am auzit. Mi s-a parut ca mi se potriveste. Tu de ce ti-ai ales acest nick ? ( if I may ask )
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Check this out!!! 8)


WING GUNDAM

This advanced mobile suit was created by a resistance group at the L1 colony cluster for the sole purpose of battling Oz. The Wing Gundam can transform into a winged "bird mode" superior to any conventional fighter plane; in this form, it can survive re-entry and fly in Earth's atmosphere. Its primary weapon is the buster rifle, an immensely powerful beam weapon which can be fired only three times before its energy supply must be recharged. For close-range combat, the Wing Gundam relies on its shoulder-mounted machine cannons and the beam sabers stored in its shield.

Pilot: Heero Yuy
Age: 15
Ethnic origin: Japanese
Place of origin: L1 colony cluster
Height: 156 cm
Weight: 45 kg
Eye color: Prussian blue
Hair color: Dark brown
Specifications:

Classification: mobile suit
Model number: XXXG-01W
Head height: 16.3 meters
Dry weight: 7.1 tons
Armor materials: Gundanium alloy
Armament: vulcan x 2
machine cannon x 2
beam saber x 2
buster rifle x 1


Ability Levels:

Fighting ability: level 130
Weapons ability: level 140
Speed ability: level 150
Power ability: level 120
Armored ability: level 130
GUNDAM DEATHSYTHE

This black, scythe-toting Gundam was created near the L2 colony cluster by the Sweeper Group salvage organization. The aptly-named Deathscythe is equipped with hyper jammers that conceal it from cameras and radar, allowing this Gundam to ambush enemy mobile suits and strike them down with one blow from its mighty beam scythe. Its buster shield also emits an energy blade, and can even be launched at nearby foes. Since the Gundam Deathscythe relies on short-range weapons, it's designed to dash towards its targets at high speed.



Pilot: Duo Maxwell
Age: 15
Ethnic origin: American
Place of origin: L2 colony cluster
Height: 156 cm
Weight: 43 kg
Eye color: Cobalt blue
Hair color: Brown

Specifications:

Classification: mobile suit
Model number: XXXG-01D
Head height: 16.3 meters
Dry weight: 7.2 tons
Armor materials: Gundanium alloy
Armament: vulcan x 2
machine cannon x 2
beam scythe x 1
buster shield x 1
hyper jammer x 2


Ability Levels:

Fighting ability: level 140
Weapons ability: level 120
Speed ability: level 160
Power ability: level 120
Armored ability: level 120

GUNDAM HEAVYARMS

The Gundam Heavyarms was created by resistance fighters at the L3 colony cluster. Designed for long-range attacks, this Gundam is packed with guns and missiles from head to foot. The Heavyarms's primary weapon is the lethal beam gatling worn over its left hand, supplemented by homing missiles in its shoulders, micro missiles on its legs, and gatling guns concealed inside its chest. When it's exhausted its ammunition, the Heavyarms must fall back on the small knife mounted on its right forearm.

Pilot:Trowa Barton
Age: 15?
Ethnic origin: Unknown
Place of origin: L3 colony cluster?
Height: 160 cm
Weight: 44 kg
Eye color: Dark green
Hair color: Brown

Specifications:

Classification: mobile suit
Model number: XXXG-01H
Head height: 16.7 meters
Dry weight: 7.7 tons
Armor materials: Gundanium alloy
Armament: vulcan x 2
machine cannon x 2
beam gatling x 1
homing missile x 6
gatling x 2
micro missile x 24
army knife x 1


Ability Levels:

Fighting ability: level 110
Weapons ability: level 160
Speed ability: level 110
Power ability: level 140
Armored ability: level 140

GUNDAM SANDROCK

The Gundam Sandrock was created at the L4 colony cluster, using the resources of the wealthy Winner family. This powerful, heavily-armored Gundam is designed for hand-to-hand combat, and is particularly well-suited to desert conditions. Its main weapons are the curved, heat-radiating blades of its heat shotels; the Sandrock is strong enoughto wield one of these huge blades with a single hand, or strike simultaneously with both. The Sandrock can mount its backpack, shield, and both heat shotels on its forearm to perform a deadly pincer attack called the "cross crusher."

Pilot: Quatre Raberba Winner
Age: 15
Ethnic origin: Arabian
Place of origin: L4 colony cluster
Height: 156 cm
Weight: 41 kg
Eye color: Blue
Hair color: Platinum gold

Specifications:

Classification: mobile suit
Model number: XXXG-01H
Head height: 16.7 meters
Dry weight: 7.7 tons
Armor materials: Gundanium alloy
Armament: vulcan x 2
machine cannon x 2
beam gatling x 1
homing missile x 6
gatling x 2
micro missile x 24
army knife x 1


Ability Levels:

Fighting ability: level 110
Weapons ability: level 160
Speed ability: level 110
Power ability: level 140
Armored ability: level 140

SHENLONG GUNDAM

Created by the reistance fighters of the L5 colony cluster, this Gundam's name is derived from the Chinese phrase "god dragon." The Shenlong Gundam's specialty is close-quarters fighting, using its spear-like beam glaive and the extendable "dragon fang" claw built into its right arm. The muzzle of the dragon fang also contains a pair of medium-range flamethrowers; the Shenlong can grasp an enemy mobile suit with its claw, then activate these flamethrowers to perform the scorching "dragon fang fire" attack.

Pilot: Chang Wufei
Age: 15
Ethnic origin: Chinese
Place of origin: L5 colony cluster
Height: 156 cm
Weight: 46 kg
Eye color: Black
Hair color: Black

Specifications:

Classification: mobile suit
Model number: XXXG-01S
Head height: 16.4 meters
Dry weight: 7.4 tons
Armor materials: Gundanium alloy
Armament: vulcan x 2
beam glaive x 1
dragon fang x 1
flamethrower x 2

Ability Levels:

Fighting ability: level 160
Weapons ability: level 110
Speed ability: level 130
Power ability: level 140
Armored ability: level 120

WING GUNDAM ZERO

Designed fifteen years ago - but never actually constructed - by the same scientists who sent the five Gundams to Earth, this immensely powerful mobile suit is the ancestor of all the Gundams. Whereas the five later Gundams were made for use on Earth, the Wing Gundam Zero is designed for space combat. It can transform into a "neo bird mode," and is armed with a twin buster rifle more than twice as powerful as that of the Wing Gundam. With its superb performance and immense firepower, this antique design would surely be the ultimate Gundam... were it ever built.
Specifications:

Classification: mobile suit
Model number: XXXG-00W0
Head height: 16.7 meters
Dry weight: 8.0 tons
Armor materials: Gundanium alloy
Armament: twin buster rifle x 1
beam saber x 2
machine cannon x 2
wing vulcan x 2
Ability Levels:

Fighting ability: level 150
Weapons ability: level 150
Speed ability: level 160
Power ability: level 140
Armored ability: level 140

GUNDAM DEATHSCYTHE H

An improved version of the original Gundam Deathscythe, adapted for space combat. The Deathscythe H's "active cloak" uses the same defensive technology as the Mercurius's planet defensors, and doubles as a manuevering system; when opened, it bears an intimidating resemblance to a devil's wings. The Deathscythe's hyper jammers and beam scythe have also been upgraded for its new incarnation.
Specifications:

Classification: mobile suit
Model number: XXXG-01D2
Head height: 16.3 meters
Dry weight: 7.4 tons
Armor materials: Gundanium alloy
Armament: twin beam scythe x 1
vulcan x 2
hyper jammer x 2
buster shield x 1


Ability Levels:

Fighting ability: level 150
Weapons ability: level 120
Speed ability: level 170
Power ability: level 120
Armored ability: level 140

ALTRON GUNDAM

As suggested by its name, which is derived from the Chinese phrase "two-headed dragon," this improved version of the Shenlong Gundam is equipped with an extendable dragon fang in each arm. Using both claws and their flamethrowers, the Altron Gundam can perform a lethal "twin dragon fang fire" attack. It's also armed with a twin beam trident, and a pair of turret-mounted beam cannons based on the Vayeate's main weapon. Lastly, a set of wing-like "random binders" enhance the Altron Gundam's mobility in space.
Specifications:

Classification: mobile suit
Model number: XXXG-01S2
Head height: 16.4 meters
Dry weight: 7.5 tons
Armor materials: Gundanium alloy
Armament: twin beam trident x 1
vulcan x 2
flamethrower x 4
beam cannon x 2
dragon fang x 2

Ability Levels:

Fighting ability: level 170
Weapons ability: level 140
Speed ability: level 130
Power ability: level 140
Armored ability: level 120

(Oz's mass-produced mobile suit Leo is rated at 100 in each category)
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Bai Duo... stii sa faci diferenta intre un site si un forum ? Siteul e pentru a gasi informatii despre anime, iar forumul e pentru a discuta animeul.
Ce... scuzati expresia... ai pus toate chestiile alea, si ai mai pus si linkul, cand tot ce scria la pagina aia am citit deja. Baremi daca comentai si tu ce-ai COPIAT.

Inca o data :

yuki :arrow: Nickul meu... da poti sa intrebi. Pai "Frost" vine de la faptul ca odata... cand eram mai mic, m-am gandit la o chestie: cum as prefera sa mor, arzand sau inghetat(de caldura sau de frig), si am preferat frigul(gheata). In plus, colegii imi spuneau ca sunt mai straniu pentru ca veneam pe la sfarsitul toamnei in tricou, cand ceilalti erau cu plovere... :D . "Dragon", pentru ca am o pasiune pentru aceste creaturi tandre dar si puternice. "Silver"= Dragonii de gheata au culoare pielii argintie. Rezultatul: Frost the Silver Dragon ;)
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Da Gundam Seed se gasea pe BitTorrent la animesuki.com da nu mai este ca a fost licentiat...
Mie personal imi placea cel mai mult ver. [SI & Aoshi & AG] la care titrarea era mult mai ingrijita si nici nu prea insereaza reclame in film...
Poate o sa continue... ajunsesera la 25 din care 1-6 erau DVD-Rip...
Singura versiune care se mai poate lua e cea titrata de AnimeJunkies... care a ajuns la ep 44 (din 52 din cate am inteles).
Pentru cei interesati ver. AJ se mai gaseste la http://www.animejunkies.com/torrent.shtml

La seriile Gundam imi place cel mai mult povestea si mai ales modul in care povestea este urmarita din mai multe perspective... Si mai ales cum cu derularea povestii se incearca definirea cat mai exacta a luptei si mai ales a motivatiei de a lupta... (au bagat tipii la filozofie uneori)....

In concluzie e super... abia astept sa apara si urmatoarele
Prin versiuni inteleg varianta filmului titrata de gruparea respectiva (ex: Aoshi Fansub, etc......)
Toate cele bune si vizionare placuta ;)
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Cu Gundam Seed se va intampla la fel cum s-a intamplat cu Wolf's Rain, adica desi este licentiat, se va gasi ori pe DC++ sau prin unele siteuri cu torrente.
Cel mai potrivit site care afiseaza imediac cum este lansat este http://anime.mircx.com/
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eu am ajuns la ep 44. Cred ca m-am inselat, ata GW cat si GS au 49 episoade. Eu am luat de pe la episodeul 26 doar cu kazaa.
Cu toate ca cele doua au destule asemanari nu exista comparatie. Gundam Seed e mult superior. In primul rand luptele sunt foarte dinamice si exceptional realizate. Story-ul mi s-a parut mult mai bun, personajele sunt mult mai carismatice.
Sunt curioasa cei cu tipl cu masca, Raw Le kruze...e dezvaluit secretul ? But please no spoilers.
O singura chestie care mi-a placut in GW si in GS nu e : pilotii aveau un fel de afectiune pentru Gundum -ul lor, din cate imi amintesc mai ales Duo. Si mai era si un gundam Epyon, care le controla emotiile, si fiecare trebuia sa lupte contra propriei constiinte cand il pilota.
Oricum ambele urmeaza un pattern , sunt foarte multe asemanari, tipurile de personaje mai ales.
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