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post Dec 14 2012, 11:41 AM
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Avand in vedere ca se citesc mult mai putine VN-uri decat manga sau anime si nici la acelea nu prea se oboseste lumea sa deschida topicuri separate pentru fiecare, ar fi mai util sa existe un thread pentru discutii generale despre ultimul VN citit, pareri si ce te-ar interesa sa citesti in continuare.

Ultimul VN pe care l-am citit e Katawa Shoujo. If you're one of the people that consider everything mainstream sa fie la nivelul Bleach, Naruto, you're making a big mistake. This is a great romance story and yes, there can be a good story even without fantasy, science fiction or whatnot.

I am currently interested in reading YU-NO. It's really old, with crappy graphics and all that, but hopefully I'll get myself a good time traveling story. Who knows, it may even be better than Stein's Gate.
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post Dec 14 2012, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(elpreda @ Dec 14 2012, 12:41 PM)
Who knows, it may even be better than Stein's Gate.
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Discutabil. Povestea e construita foarte bine, dar pe mine nu prea a reusit sa ma prinda. Dau vina pe sistemul de gameplay care poate fi foarte frustrant uneori cu faze de genul: De multe ori nu iti spune in ce directie ar trebui sa te indrepti la un moment dat asa ca ajungi sa te plimbi aiurea prin toate locatiile pe care le ai disponibile ca sa gasesti locatia specifica care contine trigger-ul pentru urmatoarea scena.
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post Dec 14 2012, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(cg1700 @ Dec 14 2012, 11:52 AM)
De multe ori nu iti spune in ce directie ar trebui sa te indrepti la un moment dat asa ca ajungi sa te plimbi aiurea prin toate locatiile pe care le ai disponibile ca sa gasesti locatia specifica care contine trigger-ul pentru urmatoarea scena.
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That seems to be a problem with many old games, not just VNs. I guess people used to have a better sense of direction.
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post Dec 14 2012, 12:15 PM
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Nah, nici nu se compara cu ce intalnesti prin alte jocuri. In alte jocuri ai un tel pe care stii ca trebuie sa il indeplinesti, chiar daca nu stii cum sa ajungi la el. Aici pur si simplu mergi din scena in scena si dintr-o data flow-ul jocului se opreste, nu iti mai spune ce ar trebui sa faci in continuare, pur si simplu te forteaza sa te plimbi prin toate locatiile disponibile pana trigger-ezi o scena de multe ori ne importanta si de abia dupa aceea te lasa sa te intorci la flow-ul obisnuit al jocului. In cele mai rele cazuri trebuie sa te plimbi aiurea prin toate locatiile de mai multe ori la rand. Si cand jocul devine:
"Plimba-te prin toate locatiile pana trigger-ezi scena urmatoare. Scena gasita a fost complet inutila si nu ti-a spus ce ar trebui sa faci ca sa continui jocul asa ca plimba-te iar prin toate locatiile pana trigger-ezi scena urmatoare. Scena gasita acum e si ea inutila asa ca plimba-te iar prin toate locatiile. Rinse and Repeat"
incepi sa te plictisesti si sa iti pierzi interesul pentru pentru main story.
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post Dec 14 2012, 12:35 PM
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I think I can handle it, I'm afraid am avut mai mult de-aface cu situatia asta decat mi-as fi dorit so I've become partially immune.

Sooo, read anything lately?
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post Dec 14 2012, 12:45 PM
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Not really. Nu prea a mai aparut nimic nou in ultima vreme. Speram ca poate Rewrite o sa fie gata inainte de Craciun, dar s-ar parea ca nu e cazul. Oh well, macar am pastrat ef pentru zile negre de genul asta, asa ca o sa am ce sa citesc in vacanta.
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post Dec 14 2012, 01:54 PM
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Ultimul VN pe care l-am citit e Katawa Shoujo.


La mine a fost primul VN. E surprinzator de bine facut, tinand cont ca a fost facut de niste oameni de pe 4chan. Adica totul e facut de fani VN,non-japonezi, de aceea apar unele mici discrepante in locatii/nume (unele nu sunt japoneze, desi suna ca si cum ar fi).



A urmat FSN,Tsukihime.Si ma apucasem de Clannad.Dar nu l-am terminat :(. Si a mai fost unul cu o formatie de 3 fete(am uitat cum i zice).
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post Dec 14 2012, 02:02 PM
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@Akashiro Kitadawa

Kira Kira?
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post Dec 14 2012, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(cg1700 @ Dec 14 2012, 02:02 PM)
@Akashiro Kitadawa

Kira Kira?
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Ala e :).Desi a fost doar demo-ul, adica am jucat pana pleaca ei in excursia in jurul Japoniei :(.
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post Mar 6 2013, 04:51 PM
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Alright, I think I'm finished with Yosuga no Sora, at least for now. Nu am citit decat ruta lui Motoka si a lui Sora. Ruta lui Kazuha e si ea complet tradusa, but to be honest I'm not really interested. Ruta lui Motoka nu e complet tradusa, dar dialogurile sunt voice acted si am reusit sa inteleg in mare parte ce spuneau, and Motoka is quite a funny raging alcoholic so I wasn't really bored.
Now for the main reason pentru care m-am apucat de VN-ul asta, Sora's route. Ce pot sa spun e ca cel ce s-a ocupat de povestea animeului a detestat ruta asta. Nu are aproape nici o legatura cu VN-ul, si este atat gresit cat si prost prezentata. In the anime it just looks that after humping every girl in town the main char decides to give his sister a try too, there a bit of drama nelalocul ei and that's it. That is not what happens in the VN, it's quite the opposite actually. Sora is the one in love with Haru, he actually rejects her and tries to get away from her, she reacts badly. Pune mult mai mult accentul pe modul cum au ajuns sa se indragosteasca si pe modul cum o relatia lor le afecteaza viata and even their sanity. I admit, it may not be the best VN overall and the beginning kinda makes you wanna give it up, but Haruka an Sora's story is, if nothing else, very interesting. You see a ton of incest hentai around but very rarely a story that actually abordeaza subiectul beyond the level of it just being a fetish.
Recomand ruta lui Sora, at the end you'll probably have a happy fulfilled expression, maybe a disgusted one, but definitely not a bored one.
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post Mar 6 2013, 05:59 PM
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Dar si in anime e prezentat ca Sora e indragostita de fratele ei, nu invers. Daca te uiti la anime si sari peste scenele care nu au legatura cu Sora o sa vezi ca e mai aproape de ce ai zis. Sau citeste manga...
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post Mar 6 2013, 07:27 PM
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They were both in love with each other in different ways, dar animeul nu sare peste anumite parti ci le schimba complet, from the way things started, the way they were caught and the way they reacted afterwards, and that's pretty much all of it. It's basically different story and it most definitely doesn't rise to the level of the original.
Anymore details would spoil it though.
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post Nov 1 2013, 01:39 AM
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Just finished G-Senjou no Maou, nu pot sa ma culc pana nu scriu ceva (nu ma culc probabil nici dupa asta oricum).
Well... it was... beyond amazing, the true route at least. "Maou" is a genius si are acelasi voice actor ca Lelouch Lamperouge. Death note and Code Geass fans are going to love him.
While the true route is a masterpiece, the side routes are really weak, it's as if the writer was stricken with temporary stupidity while writing them. I did like Kanon's route since it reminded me of my own story de la olimpiada (pian nu patinaj, singura data cand am incercat sa patinez am cazut de 3 ori intr-un minut si nu am mai atins vreodata patine), difference is I gave up on being a pianist after that.

Also, no route for the best char, Yuki-sama ... ridiculous
And dat ending... seriously now, how much of a bastard can someone be? I'd say bad end for sure if wasn't for that last character.
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post Jan 12 2017, 06:39 AM
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Just finished reading my second route from Euphoria and the only thing I could say about it was Daaaaaamn... No seriously, daaaaaaaaaaaaamn.

Cand l-am descarcat initial am crezut ca va fi doar un nukige sau mindless torture porn. Boy was I wrong. N-am mai citit niciodata o poveste that could rattle me to this extent. I could actually feel the anger, joy, disgust impreuna cu personajele and empathy is definitely not something I have that much of.
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post Feb 10 2017, 12:04 AM
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Here after a 2 days marathon of "Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka?" .

Yes, it's a web novel, not a visual novel, but seriously, I'm tired of creating new topics when I know I'm the only one who writes and reads this anyway, makes it harder to find things. No, this is not me talking to myself, I'm using the [Parallel Will] skill.

Soooo, it's about a girl that gets murdered and reincarnated as a spider (actual spider, not spider girl) in a different world. It starts out as funny and works it way up to awesome. Short chapters, will tickle RPG fans the right way, story and "fights" evolve into Umineko scale standard.
Really great read, even for arachnophobes (like me).

Exista si manga facut dupa el, dar cuprinde doar putin din inceputul povestii. You could give it a go first, see if the theme suits you.

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post Feb 10 2017, 02:33 AM
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Vad ca te-a prins Kumo :D

Pe la ce capitol ai ajuns?
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Sunt pe la 212, inca nu m-am apucat de side stories.

Avand in vedere ca ultimul capitol e din 2015 presupun ca au mai aparut, dar n-au fost traduse. Not that it matters, I may have a decent understanding of spoken Japanese, but I can't even learn to read kana.

Glad to see there's another fan here though. Btw, just curious daca am trecut prea repede prin el, sau e ca n-am citit side storie-urile sau sunt eu greu rau de cap: A explicat vreodata ce anume este
MA, de ce incearca sa creeze razboi intre demoni si oameni and most of all why the heck is the world ending?
Nu prea mai inteleg ce se intampla in poveste de cand a "aparut" Shiraori.
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QUOTE(elpreda @ Feb 11 2017, 04:58 AM)
Sunt pe la 212, inca nu m-am apucat de side stories.

Avand in vedere ca ultimul capitol e din 2015 presupun ca au mai aparut, dar n-au fost traduse. Not that it matters, I may have a decent understanding of spoken Japanese, but I can't even learn to read kana.

Glad to see there's another fan here though. Btw, just curious daca am trecut prea repede prin el, sau e ca n-am citit side storie-urile sau sunt eu greu rau de cap: A explicat vreodata ce anume este
MA, de ce incearca sa creeze razboi intre demoni si oameni and most of all why the heck is the world ending?
Nu prea mai inteleg ce se intampla in poveste de cand a "aparut" Shiraori.



Turb0 s-a retras de la traduceri. Continuarea o gasesti pe Raising the Dead

http://raisingthedead.ninja/current-j-z/ku...esu-ga-nani-ka/

unde ultimul capitol este 288 (iesit pe 15 ianuarie 2017) si este la zi cu raw-urile.

N-ai facut bine ca ai sarit peste side stories. Initial SS-urile au timeline-ul diferit de cel din main, si se axeaza pe colegii din clasa (+profa), dar mai tarziu main story-ul ajunge timeline-ul din SS-uri din urma.

Cele ONI si BLOOD sunt in acelasi timeline, fac parte din MAIN, doar ca sunt din punctele de vedere ale lui Sofia si Wrath (ma rog, ONI e in acelasi timeline un pic mai tarziu).

In orice caz, side stories sunt importante si contin multe informatii care te ajuta cu povestea.

Motivul pentru razboi, si ce este MA-ul o sa le afli un pic mai tarziu in poveste (in capitolele de pe raising the dead).
Iti recomand sa te apuci de site stories, si optional sa treci rapid si prin capitolele dintre ele din main (ca sa faci un refresh), inainte sa continui cu capitolele de pe raising the dead.

P.S. Spre sfarsitu lui februarie sau inceputu lui martie ar trebui sa inceapa sa iasa iar capitole noi (e pauza acum ca autoarea se concentreaza sa finalizeze urmatorul volum din light novel pt publicare)
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post Feb 14 2017, 02:29 AM
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Am ajuns abia pe la S23, goddamn work won't let me read in peace. Da, fara sa fi citit main-ul pana la punctul asta n-ai fi inteles nimic din ce se intampla cu Maou si Shiro. Missing the other side stories might have been a mistake, but the S series can be read out of order just fine.

I'm starting to like this novel more and more, I think I'm enjoying it even more than Overlord.

Also Sue-sama is wasted on that stupid Shinji... I mean Shun. Also I know I shouldn't considering it's free, but damn Turb0 really needs to get his hands on a grammar textbook. At this point he has earned the [Natural Calamity of Grammar Nazi] title.
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Am ajuns la zi cu Dungeon Defense. Eram plictisit, am gasit pe net c-ar fi bun. A fost mult peste asteptari.
Ce il face sa fie exceptional nu e atat de mult povestea ci personajele. Some of the best damn characters I've ever seen anywhere. Really recommend it.

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