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post Nov 16 2009, 05:42 AM
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Shu... ai omorat discutia... iar drept pedeapsa trebuie sa aduci ceva de argumentat :twisted:

Si da repiri din egoism, pentru ca nu vrei sa mori, si pentru ca iti place sa ... respiri :unsure: .


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post Nov 17 2009, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(IceJack @ Nov 16 2009, 05:42 AM)
Shu... ai omorat discutia...

But i only wanted to kill Trick. Discutia e collateral damage :P



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post Dec 10 2009, 11:55 AM
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Shu, buuu! buuU!! buUU!!! bUUU!!!! BUUU!!!!!

In lipsa de altceva:
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si in cazul(probabil) in care poza nu o sa mai mearga asta era ideea:

"Of all the possible utensils that could've been invented to eat rice with, how did two sticks win out" (chopsticks)

p.s. from wiki: "Many Korean metal chopsticks are ornately decorated at the grip. They are sometimes used to put food on a spoon, which then brings food to the mouth." WTH?


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post Dec 10 2009, 12:25 PM
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<shrug> Mie mi se pare o idee foarte igienica. In mancare bagi betzele, in gura bagi lingura. Win-win.

Also, betzele probabil ca au castigat istoric pentru ca sunt extrem de simplu de facut. Imi imaginez ca pot sa "sculptez" doua betze daca am nevoide... dar de o lingura nu sunt deloc sigur.


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post Mar 25 2010, 03:40 PM
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Hehehe let us see if we can jump start this thing.

Personal freedom means nothing, if all the people around you chose to be dicks. Better to rule in hell then serve in heaven doesn't apply to us, because we're already in hell and it's not us who's doing all the ruling.


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post Mar 25 2010, 04:08 PM
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"Personal freedom means nothing, if all the people around you chose to be dicks."

Depinde ce ai vrut sa zici aici...ideea de personal freedom chiar si in democratie respecta o regula de aur. Ai libertatea sa faci orice cat timp nu incalci libertatile altora. Deci daca esti inconjurat de dicks nu inseamna neaparat ca acestia iti vor incalca libertatea deci personal freedom exista intr-o anumita limita.

Libertatea ne este asigurata de faptul ca intr-o zi s-au asociat niste oameni si au decis ca impreuna pot lucra mai bine, astfel s-a format ideea de tara/guvern/etc.. Cu ajutorul majoritatii s-au stabilit reguli, legi si metodologii de a "lucra" impreuna. Libertatea exista si inainte de stat/societate/etc., insa nu era protejata. Acum din nou trebuie sa definesti libertatea ca sa se poata continua discutia. Cine poate spune ce inseamna defapt si in ce drepturi consta libertatea? Dreptul de a poseda lucruri? Cine poate spune de ce masina care ai cumparat-o e defapt a ta sau ca pamantul cumparat de tine iti apartine? Posesia e doar o conventie bazata pe incredere la fel ca si banii. Banii nu au valoare adevarata la fel ca si libertatea. E doar un etalon prin care se contorizeaza lumea. Dar cine poate spune de ce am libertatea sa posed pamanat? De ce nu e al tuturor sau al nimanui?


O parere personala este ca nu avem libertate. Suntem sclavii iluziilor si ignorantei. Nu e neaparat ceva rau sa fi sclavul iluziilor si ignoratei dar nu mi se pare uman ca lumea sa nu fie constienta de acesta situatie.


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post Mar 26 2010, 02:51 PM
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Poate exista forte mai mari care vor ca noi sa nu fim constienti , *insert conspiracy here*, desi mai degraba conducatorii nostrii vrem sa ne complacem in asta.

Si multi ne complacem, si multi din cei care nu se complac considera ca nu prea au ce sa faca.


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post Apr 29 2010, 03:20 PM
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Oare ce e cu dorinta asta oamenilor de a fii cat mai sus, are oare legatura cu visul de a zbura sau e o concluzie ce ni s-a scris in codul genetic ca inaltimea e echivalenta cu statutul social?

Si cat de sus se mai poate merge, e clar ca spatiul ar fii ultima frontiera cand vine vorba cat de sus poti sa fii, o sa fie oare continuat pe distanta de la Pamant sau de centrul galaxiei/universului, si daca da cum? Cei mai bogati pe pamant sau cat mai departe posibil? Sau o sa gandim tot limitat si o sa facem blocuri in spatiu cu intrare doar la parter ca sa 'urci' la penthouse? :huh:


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post May 20 2010, 02:42 PM
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Dorinta omului de a fi cat mai sus...pai asta e una dintre cele mai simple intrebari.

Omul este facut ca sa aspire la mai bine, este facut sa evolueze si asta se vede in viata fiecaruia. Odata ce un om ajunge sa zicem la un trai foarte bun, casa extraordinara, familie, stare sociala si economica buna, tot vrea mai mult deoarece odata ce a ajuns acolo, brusc vede altceva si mai bun la care vrea sa urce. Sa dau un exemplu:

Esti la baza scarilor sa zicem, tu vezi un obiect foarte stralucitor la ceva distanta in sus si iti vine ideea de a-l avea, tu te urci cu greu si pana la urma esti fericit ca ai ajuns la el si acum il ai, dar urcandu-te atata, brusc vezi ca mai sus de acel obiect mai e inca ceva si mai stralucitor, te urci si dupa ala si tot asa.

Omul e facut sa aspire la mai bine si piramida lui Maslow arata foarte clar asta, te urci de la simplu la complex. Acum stiu ce o sa intrebe cativa, "Dar piramida aia e finita, are un varf si acel varf se cheama Nevoie de Spiritualitate" la care eu voi raspunde ca tocmai aia este infinita, omul este o fiinta spirituala si ganditoare ce isi va pune mereu intrebari existentiale si va incerca sa gaseasca logica in aparentul "haos" al universului (sau multiversului).

Nevoia de cunoastere nu poate si nu va fi niciodata implinita, este singurul lucru infinit si tocmai asta mi se pare ceva uimitor, faptul ca omul nu poate sa perceapa conceptul de infinit dar tot aspira la el si acesta este un drum imposibil de terminat dar extraordinar de parcurs. De ce ?Pentru ca aici e scopul omului si semnificatia lui, mereu sa aspire si niciodata sa atinga, pentru ca daca ar atinge sfarsitul (ceea ce este imposibil) si-ar semna autodistrugerea pentru ca nu ar mai avea un scop. Ce scop are o creatura care nu mai poate evolua ?Doar moartea...


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post May 20 2010, 02:52 PM
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Like the ideas. Am doua obiectii.

First, piramida lui Maslow e "debunked". A fost un moment de-a dreptul funny cand s-au apucat sa caute exact ce studii o confirma, si si-au dat seama ca in 20-30 ani cat o fi durat a parut atat de evidenta ca nu s-a obosit nimeni sa o verifice. Si cand au facut-o in sfarsit...

Doi la mana, evolutia merge in jos, nu in sus. E o sita, nu un castel. Lucrurile care evolueaza sunt cele care au reusit sa ramana. Daca vreodata mediul se schimba si idealul va fi un om complet lipsit de imaginatie sau dorinta de a progresa, tot evolutie se cheama si procesul care ne impinge spre idealul asta.


Si ca sa raspund la intrebarea originala, vrem sa ajungem cat mai sus pentru ca ne tragem din maimute.


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post May 20 2010, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(rogueman999 @ May 20 2010, 03:52 PM)
Si ca sa raspund la intrebarea originala, vrem sa ajungem cat mai sus pentru ca ne tragem din maimute.
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Ahahahaha ce am mai ras la asta true true I R MONKEY :D
Sunt de acord ca maslow e cam invechit, oricum explica unele comportamente dpv economic insa as privi-o mai mult ca un guideline decat o carte de capatai.
Si nu as da directie evolutiei eu zic ca sistemul(universul) evolueaza de la sine iar noi nu prea avem cum sa ne dam seama in ce directie am apucat-o.

De acord si cu Drake ca cunoasterea e infinita insa iarasi nu stim daca ne poate ajuta cunoasterea si unde si cum. anyway i like the zen view cunoasterea e necunoastere :)


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post May 21 2010, 09:02 PM
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Bueeey, miroase a creier incins >_<


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post May 25 2010, 05:49 PM
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Oi (o)G-chan nu omora discutia, mi-a luat destul de mult timp sa ii mai dau cateva varfuri de puls la topicul asta, fii si tu on topic, asa din respect pt intelectualii care pot. :lol:

Imi place ideea de sita a lui rogueman999, dar nu multi s-ar fii gandit sau ar fii preferat exprimarea asta, dinnou din ideea ca inaltarea e bine, decaderea nu: rai/iad , zborul ca act nobil vs taratul prin tarana ca act josnic, etc.
Pana la urma poate de la asta a pornit... prea mult namol :D mai sus reprezenta sa fii curat, protejat de animale, inundatii, etc, nu si de fulgere, ploaie, grindina, dar astea vin de sus deci 'trebuie' sa fii pedepse ale lui zeilor... :rolleyes:

..poate combinate cu frica de inaltime "look up/don't look down" si explicatii 'sttintifice' ale senzatiei de samani/preotii/etc


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