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Sep 11 2004, 11:40 AM
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Citeam mai demult pe forumul animemusicvideos, parerea unuia, madbunny, despre acest serial, pe tin sa o reproduc mai jos:
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ten reasons why this show pissed me off.
1. The main characters are indecisive to the point of painfull. There are several times when they just stand there while their friends are being beaten to a pulp and agonize whether or not they should help.
2. Everybody has guns and some special equipment, yet they still agonize over whether or not to kill the alien freaks that just splattered one of their friends.
3. The main character is an asshole. In the show, there is a girl, she's basically homeless due to a plot device; first it takes him for fucking EVER to figure out that a girl that's been sleeping in front of his door waiting for him to get home wasn't there because she wanted a glass of water.
3.5 Once he does find out, all he can do is think about getting laid. (while she's all crying over her plight by the way)
3.7 He never actually gets laid, he just leers at her boobs a lot.
4. In the middle of a fight to the death (while agonizing over whether or not to shoot) characters will have these long ass periods of 'frozen with fear' while everyone around them is getting kacked.
5. The secondary characters are either assholes, or total pussies. (example: when a girl gets dragged out of the room to be very obviously raped since you can hear her protesting through the door NO one goes to help until we've had a good solid round of self doubt.)
6 there are several episodes where I was just yelling, "goddam, fucking shoot, fuuuck, you guys are such pussies" at the screen.
7. Apparently being surrounded by aliens, having most of your group including an old grandmother and her grandchild get kacked STILL isn't enough to convince you that firearms, NOT hand to hand combat is the way to go.)
8 There is a news story going on about the dissapearance of the main characters that continues throughout the entire show. The newscaster takes lots of time to show a mashed umbrella, and a nudie magazine that was left behind. This is despite the fact that it's the main characters who are supposedly dead (this isn't a spoiler), but have actually returned to school.
9. The school, is filled with bullies that prey on the weak and extract teeth when they don't bring enough lunch money. No one seems to actually care about this, and the main chracter doesn't help anyone (of course!) until he is the one targeted. Naturally he still agonizes about fighing back while he's getting smacked around. Only the thoughts of his friends very large boobies are enough to make him fight back.
10 in the first season, there are only a couple of actual action peices. Most of which you see in the opening credits.
11. Actually, if you've seen the opening credits, that is the whole season without the whining, agonizing and bitching.
12. The 'hero' of the group is willing to help out obvious assholes, even just after they got done doing rock paper scisors on who gets to rape his girlfriend first. (they don't, she never actually gets raped.)
12.5 How goddam many times do we have to see people decide to rape this girl?
13 Ok, get with me here... you get zapped to a remote location, armed and equiped. Do you stand around yakking, or grab some hardware?
14 the "boss" (and he is reffered to as such) alien looks like an escapee from a fried chicken advertisement.
14.5 On second thought, maybe the 'boss' is able to get employment as a mascot for some sports team.
15 The main character is seemingly able to read peoples minds in the very beginning of the first episode, yet this never surfaces again. Presumably this is why when he want's to have sex with the girl who has no place to go, and is crying he doesn't 'get' that maybe it's not an ideal time.
15.5 If he was THAT mercenary, he would have just said 'put out or get out'. After all he goes to a school where bullies pull the teeth right out of junior right outside classes.
16 did I mention that in the middle of a combat situation, people are still yakking about helping each other out, making threats, and so forth?
17 The stuff that comes out of the armament 'device' could never actually fit inside of it. Explain that shit, someone?
18 see above
Ma intrebam, daca e chiar asa de rau acest serial, ideea ar fi interesanta, adik poate duce la multa actiune, dar felul in care e realizat lasa de dorit...
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May 2 2006, 10:19 PM
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Jedi Cleric (ManBearPig Rase)
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Incep prin a am plange: scenele de actiune erau nesincronizate demi-atemporale si a-spatiale. Numai mie mi s-a parut sau am dreptate? Sau poate este prezentarea terorii care juca farse si asupra prezentarii actiunii?
Despre serie... in final cred ca am inteles ce oferea Gantz: sansa de a muri luptand (parca Mika zice chestia asta prin ultimele episoade). Cel putin asa interpretez eu finalul. Chiar si Kurono moare, toti mor in final, pentru ca ei erau sortiti pierii (adica vietile lor erau ale lui Gantz, ca asa toti murim), dar mor luptand, nu mor in accidente de masini, sinucigandu-se sau injunghiati etc. Desigur, exista si exceptii, dar putem sa spunem ca aceste exceptii intaresc regula? Eu sper ca putem. (desi explicatia data de tine Scorpio cu privire la existenta lui Tetsuo este foarte interesanta, pentru ca nu numai ca nu mai era folositor in cadrul familiar dar nici in cel social, deoarece gasca lui de mtociclisti suferise de alienism, adica daduse ortu' popii)
Cat despre personaje negative/pozitive etc... Eu l-am dispretuit pe Kurono din momentul 1, dar probabil l-am dispretuit pentru ca seamana prea mult cu mine, si desigur ca l-am apreciat pe Masaru deoarece el era liderul, bunul samarinean, tipul care incerca mereu sa faca binele dar ce mai scapa si el pe din laturi (lucru care atesta ca personajul simuleaza perfect firea umana si nu un o existenta fantasmica, liniara). Consider ca dintre toti Masaru merita sa traiasaca. El a fost cel care a luptat pentru altii chiar si in momentul mortii (atat initiale cat si finale, si recunoasteti ca Gantz a tras de timp big time doar ca sa nu-l aduca pe Masaru inapoi). Poate imi spuneti ca sunt dobitoc... poate sunt :D, nu ar fi ciudat sa fac un obicei din a ma atasa de personajele nesuferite, dar simbioza care s-a legat intre Kurono si Masaru, inter-dependenta evolutiilor celor doua personaje este clara. Defapt, nu fac decat sa-si prezinte unul altuia ce este curajul. As putea chiar spune ca Masaru este pentru Kurono (pers. principal) the gost of christmast past, adica icoana propriei entitati dintr-un trecut sters de adolescenta si de societate.
Seria este foarte bine cladita si puterea narativa a creatorilor este de apreciat, reusind sa creez chiar is pentru personajele mai putin insemnante entitati palpabile dar folosindu-se de ele pentru a prezenta diferite conceptii/moduri de actiune in momente de criza etc.
P.S. Super Shooter este una dintre cele mai mishto melodii pe care am avut ocazia sa o aud intr-un anime. (nu am ascultat tot OSTul si nu-l pot lauda, mai ales ca sunt si alte multe OSTuri care integral sunt dementiale dar ce nu au o melodie mai speciala, cum e cazul Super Shooter :D )
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